I believe Cisco Certs aren't the same as the other vendor's Certs, in that
for MS/Novell/Lotus alot of them require knowledge with their products. As
newer versions of the OS/App comes along, your previous knowledge will be
less relevant.
Alot of the knowledge for Cisco Certs involve understanding of protocols
that are not part of the Cisco standards (eg. IETF, IEEE, ANSI, etc).
Although they too get revised, this revision affects other vendors not only
Cisco. So whatever you learn for the CCIE will most unlikely get wasted
compared to learning vendor technoligies like NT and Novell. If IETF had a
certification, CCIE would be pretty close.
The list of people you mentioned have had extensive experience in the
industry, that is why they are doing well. I believe they have worked on
some major projects, which allowed them the experience they have.
How I see myself using the Cisco Certs is by showing a level of competence
that will allow me to work on some major projects in the future. However,
without the Certs I would probably have to wait another 5-10 years to prove
myself.
Where I want to be is a freelance CCIE, travelling around working project by
project. I guess I need a few big breaks for me to get that opportunity, and
I believe having a CCIE will allow me to at least get a break =). (Any
freelancing CCIE's willing to give some advice, feel free to email =))
Don't worry, be happy!! Nothing to fear... one day you'll tell your
grandkids about the 'recession' of the early 2000s after the big bubble
burst =). (btw. US is technically not in recession, so mind how you use that
word)
Albert
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> Guys,
>
> on saturday i passed my CCIE written ,just ....Horray for me ...
> But i have decided not to go for the lab?????......WHY?.
>
> well i have been in the industry for 8yrs..and i have spent most of that
> time chasing Cred`s,
> First it was novell
> Then it was Microsoft
> then i side-swiped into Lotus
> Now it is Cisco....and throughout all that time .as soon as i get these
> cred`s they seem to to be worth as much as they were.
> an articale taken from "the Times" about two weeks ago by a top london
> recuritment agent
>
> "At this present time ,even though we(England) are in a resonable
> period of
> growth ,i presently have 5 of the most sort after network expert CCIE
> awatiing work"
>
> this got me thinking........how many CCIE does the world need.
>
> And more importantly HOW much work it there for CCIE`s,
>
> take this senario ... i presently work for a company that has over 12,000
> employees in the UK....we have 1500 cisco switches and routers running
> OSPF.BGP.ISDN,SMDS.,
> yet we have only ONE CCIE...this begs the question ....how many org`s are
> there out there to support all us IE.for economic means only why employ an
> IE if you only need (or can get away with) an NP who spent the time the IE
> did on his lab X-triaing into FOUNDRY and VOIP...?????
> if we take this list for example there are plenty of people who are
> extremly advanced in there skill
>
> Howard,Pris,Chuck,Thomas,MR roysdon....these guys and more don`t SEEM to
> need the IE...maybe they have made the right choice..???????
>
> this question is scaring me ....just a bit
>
> also,
> if i spend $4,000 on a test lab $1,200 per shot at the real thing ,then i
> actuallly pass ,if an organisation the size of mine only needs
> one ...?what
> will the return on my investment B...?????? will there b so many IE out
> there that i can`t find work because i am deemed to expensive??????????
>
> i think i will do the following
>
> CCDP ,Secuirty/pix stuff then foundry.............
>
> your thought`s and advise please
>
> steve ...MCSE,CCNA,CCNP,CCDA,CCIe written
>
> VVSAF.......Very Very Scared About the Future
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