No one ever said anything about BS'ing the lab ?? 
Once again, an e-mail passed around so many times, it
becomes an old wives tale.


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> Caroll's right, you can't BS that lab!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Carroll Kong
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab
> [7:3568]
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> At 01:27 PM 5/8/01 -0400, Chris Haller wrote:
> >The school I am currently attending for CCIE
> >written/lab is pumping out "paper" CCIE's faster
> than
> >I can say .. "help, the written ccie is almost as
> >worthless as the mcse"
> >
> >Juniper ??  I hear their test is twice as hard as
> >CCIE.  Mabey you should attempt that one ....
> 
> But by definition, there is no paper CCIE.  You have
> no CCIE certification
> if you only pass the qualifier (written exam).  I do
> not know if you can
> even consider it "half way" there.  It is just a
> prelude of things to come
> and to weed out people.  I have not taken the
> written personally, so not
> sure if it is "bookwormable".  I am assuming it is
> since anything written /
> multiple choice ends up being that way in the end.
> 
> The Juniper written lab or the juniper practical lab
> is "twice" as
> hard?    If it is more emphasis on ISIS or
> Juniper-isms, it is a
> matter of spending some time to apply your basic
> networking knowledge to
> understand new protocols (ISIS isn't concentrated on
> as heavily in CCIE
> exams if I remember correctly) and learning a
> particular company's
> "isms".  Or working with the company's particular
> hardware.  (ouch, good
> luck finding those guys on ebay for a good price). 
> Should not be too hard
> for good networking guys (written part), exposure to
> the hardcore equipment
> might be hard, but also makes you wonder if the
> market space is really that
> big for heavy duty core work.
> 
> 
> 
> -Carroll Kong
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Chris from Chicago
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