Agree, in spades




Cheers

Jim Gillen

Snr Communications Engineer
AUSTRAC

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>>> "William E. Grudged"  9/05/01 9:17:06 >>>
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Caroll's right, you can't BS that lab!

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Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab [7:3568]


At 01:27 PM 5/8/01 -0400, Chris Haller wrote:
>The school I am currently attending for CCIE
>written/lab is pumping out "paper" CCIE's faster than
>I can say .. "help, the written ccie is almost as
>worthless as the mcse"
>
>Juniper ??  I hear their test is twice as hard as
>CCIE.  Mabey you should attempt that one ....

But by definition, there is no paper CCIE.  You have no CCIE certification
if you only pass the qualifier (written exam).  I do not know if you can
even consider it "half way" there.  It is just a prelude of things to come
and to weed out people.  I have not taken the written personally, so not
sure if it is "bookwormable".  I am assuming it is since anything written /
multiple choice ends up being that way in the end.

The Juniper written lab or the juniper practical lab is "twice" as
hard?    If it is more emphasis on ISIS or Juniper-isms, it is a
matter of spending some time to apply your basic networking knowledge to
understand new protocols (ISIS isn't concentrated on as heavily in CCIE
exams if I remember correctly) and learning a particular company's
"isms".  Or working with the company's particular hardware.  (ouch, good
luck finding those guys on ebay for a good price).  Should not be too hard
for good networking guys (written part), exposure to the hardcore equipment
might be hard, but also makes you wonder if the market space is really that
big for heavy duty core work.



-Carroll Kong
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