At 07:17 PM 6/21/02, Chuck wrote: >""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer > > it!? > > > >CL: surprise surprise we all THINK we know the answer byt realy we don't ;->
My messages arrived asynchronously, when I meant for them to arrive isochronously. ;-) Seriously, they arrived out of order. Despite all the confusion, I do feel like I have an answer now. Thanks to everyone who answered. Priscilla > > Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router > > interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not > > active). > > > > Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD) > > comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda. > > It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU. > > > > If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or >does > > the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the > > telco? > > > > Does "carrier detect" mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would > > the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And > > hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was >down/down. > > > >CL: in my old dial up to the BBS days, I always interpreted "carrier" as >essentially a completed telephone call. I've carried that "idea" into the T1 >world I live in now. however, I think we all know the problem with Frame or >ATM, where the line is up ( i.e. there is carrier ) because of LMI or the >ATM equivalent signalling, so dial backup doesn't kick in, even though end >to end is down. > > > > Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question. ;-) > > > >CL: personally, I enjoy getting into the nitty gritty of how things really >work. Not that I need to, or that it is necessary, even in the certification >quest. It just serves to broaden the perspective. It never hurts to >understand things a bit better. > > > > Priscilla > > > > At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > >Hi Group Study, > > > > > >While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself > > >questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario: > > > > > >A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35 > > >cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been > > >misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing > > >doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a >CSU/DSU > > >that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.) > > > > > >Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down? > > > > > >And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with > > >misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)? > > > > > >If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read > > >the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc. > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Priscilla > > > > > >________________________ > > > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer > > >http://www.priscilla.com > > ________________________ > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > http://www.priscilla.com ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47167&t=47101 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]