I've seen both down/down and up/down in real-world scenarios.  The
difference between the two seemed to be the intelligence of the CSU/DSU.

With a recent Adtran unit, it goes down/down - if the CSU is down, it
takes down the DSU.  I did not delve into the configuration to see if
this behavior could be changed.

A very old Black Box unit that I've played with will happily keep the
DSU up regardless of the state of the CSU.  This one was configured with
DIP switches, and I didn't see a way to change the behavior.


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer
> it!?
> 
> Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router
> interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not
> active).
> 
> Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD)
> comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda.
> It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU.
> 
> If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or does
> the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the
> telco?
> 
> Does "carrier detect" mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would
> the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And
> hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was down/down.
> 
> Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question. ;-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >Hi Group Study,
> >
> >While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
> >questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
> >
> >A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
> >cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
> >misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
> >doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
> >that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
> >
> >Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
> >
> >And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
> >misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
> >
> >If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
> >the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.




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