> For the record, I studied and practiced hard, and passed the CCIE lab with
> precious little "industry experience."  I found a great job in a great
> company within two months of passing the CCIE Lab, and I had a few other
> interested folks contact me for interviews.

The demagoguery of this whole thread aside, my experience was much the same
as Mr. Larus'.  I had little industry experience and also found exactly the
job I wanted in exactly the place I wanted for exactly the money that I
asked for within two and a half months.  I also had three other offers  and
a series of five interviews with a prominent multinational whose only
concern was my lack of customer facing time as I was interviewing for a
pre-sales role.  As I am a high school dropout with only a couple years of
university to my credit, you can more clearly see the effect of the CCIE on
my career than on  Mr. Larus' as he was a  lawyer in his previous
incarnation and hence brings allot to the table outside of the CCIE even
without much industry experience.  Every one of the CCIEs that I know is
working aside from one that is dedicating more time to flying RC gliders off
a cliff in San Francisco than job searching:)

If you want to get a good job in the networking field, the CCIE is a great
path to take.  If you would rather rise to the top management of Cisco or
some other Fortune 500 company you are better off with a degree... or
perhaps even better, many hours in the garden watching some rapacious slug
devour and assimilate everything in its path.  Keep in mind that business
(like government and unlike fish) is curious in that the bottomfeeders
congregate at the top.

YMMV and gas is about to get more expensive,

Geoff Zinderdine
CCIE #10410

P.S.  Tom, is your career recapitulating phylogeny?




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