On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:26 AM, cej38 <junkerme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am a physicist by training and practice, this means that I am an
> expert on Fortran 95.  To say my exposure to Java is minimal would be
> generous.  And until last year when I heard about Clojure from a
> friend, I thought LISP was a speech impediment.
>
> Setting up Clojure was a MAJOR problem for me, what with getting
> path's and classpaths right. (Figuring out what a classpath is was a
> challenge.)  If it wasn't for the very patient help of a CS friend of
> mine, I would not have figured it out.
>
> I think the documentation assumes that the user is comfortable with
> Java.  I feel like I am being asked to learn Java so that I can learn
> Clojure.
>

Amen!  I can understand why this was the initial road to get functionality
going quickly, but I hope this goes away.



> I am now an avid Clojure user, but there really does need to be better
> descriptions of how to set Clojure up on the website.
>
>
> On Mar 21, 4:37 pm, Quzanti <quza...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Reading his post I got the impression he was a bit of an egocentric (a
> > bit more information about himself than was relevant), those sorts
> > tend to overreact.
> >
> > However I can imagine the whole just bung the jar file on your
> > classpath thing wouldn't make much sense for a java newbie. It may
> > highlight the need for some special 'getting started' documentation
> > for Lisp programmers who have never used java, which I understand to
> > be one target audience of clojure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I don't understand the complaints about installing Clojure. As far as I
> know
> > > there's nothing required to 'install' Clojure beyond downloading the
> > > clojure.jar, other than I guess having a working Java installation.
>
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