Thanks for bringing the discussion back on track. That's a great list of
contexts & links.

David

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Raju Bitter <rajubit...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Thanks for posting the link. I've been following Bret Victor's blog
> and the stuff he has been doing for some time.
>
> Bret has built some very impressive UIs using OpenLaszlo, and he is a
> fan of the technology and the expressiveness of the LZX language for
> building UIs. OpenLaszlo was created by bunch of smart folks and
> Lispers, including Oliver Steele (worked for Apple on Dylan), Max
> Carlson, Tucker Withington (worked for Symbolics and Harlequin,
> implemented the GC for Dylan when Apple hired Harlequin to work on the
> language), and Henry Minsky (Marvin Minsky's son).
> http://osteele.com/
> http://pt.withy.org/
>
> Here's an old gestural zoom/pan demo Bret built with OpenLaszlo:
> http://worrydream.com/GesturalZoomAndPan/
>
> OpenLaszlo's LZX language uses a declarative approach to building UIs
> and highly interactive applications (check this video of the Laszlo
> Dashboard, which was created in 2002/2003 http://vimeo.com/14206607).
> LZX is a mixture of XML tags + JavaScript, which initially was
> compiled into SWF bytecode. In 2007 Laszlo added cross-compilation to
> JavaScript (DHTML runtime) to the platform, and in 2009
> cross-compilation to ActionScript 3 (which is then compiled into SWF
> using the Flex SDK).
>
> Here's a video of the LzPix application, the first OpenLaszlo app to
> cross-compile to JavaScript
> http://vimeo.com/32853986
>
> My technology dream-team for client development would be ClojureScript
> combined with OpenLaszlo (has a powerful view kernel with interesting
> stuff like constraints, datapath mapping using xpath, simple yet
> powerful animation APIs). Instead of using XML + JavaScript, I'd
> prefer to use a more Clojure/Lisp like syntax to build UIs with
> OpenLaszlo in combination with ClojureScript. There's a slight chance
> that we can get the OpenLaszlo Lisp folks interested in integrating
> OpenLaszlo with ClojureScript (they are all working at Nest Labs now),
> and I'm sure that Bret Victor would love the combination as a tool for
> building some awesome prototypes.
>
> - Raju
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