Does anyone have information on something like MagicJack and Linux on a wall wart style appliance? How about otherwise?
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 04:03:46PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > OK, that is two of us. The point is that there are a handful of > people who are capable, and an even smaller number who want to spend > the time and energy. > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I run web hosting as well so I hold my hand up. I have since 1998. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:35:51PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > >> We are talking about higher up the stack. We already have a free > >> stack from boot loader, to kernel, to OS, to > >> Apache/lighttpd/micro-httpd/mini-httpd/thttpd etc. We now need > >> something on top of all that. We are also talking about something > >> that a less technical user could plug into a wall socket and then > >> start using. > >> > >> I already do this with Drupal. I run my own DNS servers, and control > >> just about every part of the chain (I have a web hosting company > >> hosting my Drupal instance, but I get a nightly backup at home, and > >> could be up and running again in 30 minutes). Raise your hand if you > >> too can do this. OK, now keep your hands up if you *want* to do all > >> this work. Some days I just want it all to work. > >> > >> There is work being done in this space, but we are in the early days. > >> Think kernel v0.5 era. > >> > >> We may also need an alternative to DNS, since that can currently be messed > >> with. > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Greg Saunders <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I kinda thought that but wouldn't a better way to solve this problem be > >> > at > >> > the protocol layer and not the infrastructure? > >> > i.e. httpf or httpfs, smtpf, imapf, dnsf, etc. > >> > I care more about my message (and communications) being "free" (as in > >> > beer > >> > and speech) than the hardware (and OS) it traversed. > >> > So in a world where you had a mix of "free" and commercial infrastructure > >> > (which seems realistic), my "free" data (communication) would be routed > >> > accordingly. > >> > ??? > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> We are talking about building a free as in speech alternative to > >> >> facebook > >> >> and twitter. We have the low cost hardware, we have a free as in > >> >> speech OS > >> >> as well as a solid free (again as speech) stack on top of that. > >> >> > >> >> The problem was that the protests in the Arab world were largely > >> >> organised > >> >> on Facebook and Twitter. These represent single points of failure and > >> >> censorship. The idea is to have a federated, free and open solution to > >> >> replace this that can't be as easily taken down. Think Identi.ca but > >> >> for > >> >> facebook. > >> >> > >> >> It is not just Facebook, there are all sorts of hosted (aka "cloud") > >> >> solutions that we have little ultimate control over. It just makes > >> >> sense to > >> >> have an open and federated alternative. There are a lot of pieces > >> >> already > >> >> in the works, like Identi.ca and Feng office, and so on. There just is > >> >> no > >> >> co-ordinated platform to compete with Google Apps/Google+, Facebook etc. > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity. > >> >> > >> >> On Jul 5, 2011 2:15 PM, "Greg Saunders" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> clug-talk mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> >> **Please remove these lines when replying > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > clug-talk mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> > **Please remove these lines when replying > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> clug-talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
