Ouch.  Brings back bad memories.  I re-cored the deck of an E-22 once. Not
fun.
Did the surveyor go over the hull with a moisture meter as part of the
survey?  How long was that before you had to tear into it like this?



On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't tried sharing anything via Google+, so don't know if they force
> you to have a Google ID.  Anyway, here are some pictures of the core work
> from Spring 2011 and a couple of pictures from chainplate reinforcement
> from the prior year.  This year it's just the keel sump (pictures to be
> posted later).
>
> I know this is not a particularly good advertisement for owning an older
> C&C, or trusting surveyors for that matter...
>
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/101312290967793013089/albums/5832293047389624689
>
>
> Tim
> Mojito
> 1984 C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:13 AM, dwight veinot <
> dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>> ** ** **
>>
>> Tim****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Do you have any photos of the repair that you can share?  If so I’d like
>> to have a look, please****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dwight Veinot****
>>
>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna****
>>
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS****
>>   ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim
>> Goodyear
>> *Sent:* January 11, 2013 9:59 AM
>> *To:* Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks
>> ****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> The cause of the cracks was wet core just outboard / above the solid
>> glass at the turn of the bilge (right by the mast step).  There was a void
>> between the mast step assembly (glass) and the hull proper that allowed
>> water to sit for a while (29 years?) against the inner laminate...  I now
>> have full confidence in the hull integrity (having replaced most of it over
>> the last two years), but am many dollars lighter.  The temptation of a new
>> boat is growing.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tim****
>>
>> Mojito****
>>
>> 1984 C&C 35-3****
>>
>> ****Branford**, **CT********
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> My boat is a lot older than yours but if it's any indication, their layup
>> schedules weren't very good.  I've re-tabbed most of the bulkhead/hull
>> joints in Touche's forward section.  A few were detached or broken but most
>> were just bad practice.
>>
>> When I had the boat hauled about 5 years ago for a barrier coat, I could
>> see cosmetic cracks in the matte once the gelcoat was removed from the
>> underbody.  These cracks aligned with the bulkheads.  The bulkhead tabs had
>> no fillets.  They were all 90 degree joints.  This created stress points at
>> the joints which manifested themselves as the cosmetic cracks on the
>> outside of the hull.
>>
>> I have been re-tabbing all the bulkheads with filleted joints.  I ground
>> out the old tabbing, created fillets and re-tabbed with 4 inch biaxial
>> tape.  To create the fillets, I put thickened epoxy in the joint and
>> smoothed it with the back of a plastic spoon.  This creates a nice radius
>> for the fillet.  The filleted joints spread the load.  This is particularly
>> important in the forward section of the boat as that's where the boat
>> pounds into waves.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> ****Mandeville**, **LA********
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>   ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> There is some tabbing in the bilge sump between floors and hull that has
>> become detached.  I'll have that ground off and reattached and will add
>> glass on the outside and fair.  Does anyone have access to any of the
>> original layup schedules in that area?  I have copies of all the drawings
>> that were available, but none were that specific on construction methods.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tim****
>>
>> Mojito****
>>
>> C&C 35-3 1984****
>>
>> ****Branford**, **CT********
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Graham Collins <
>> cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi Tim
>> I'd pull the cabin sole and see if the floor grid is still well attached
>> to the hull at the turn of the bilge, I'm guessing on the port side it is
>> not.
>>
>> Graham Collins
>> Secret Plans
>> C&C 35-III #11
>>
>>
>> Tim Goodyear wrote:****
>>
>> Hello all 35-3 owners - I'm looking for some advice, especially from
>> those who have re-habbed their keels on this model...
>> I was checking on Mojito this morning, and noticed beads of moisture in
>> two areas; a spot at the top of the keel trailing edge and an 8" hairline
>> crack on the port side at hull / keel stub (almost exactly where the mast
>> step is internally).  Would this have been enough for you to go ahead with
>> major keel surgery?
>> Rear of keel
>> I've been trying to resolve this for a while; two separate boat yards
>> have had a go at if, and the area is now solid fiberglass / epoxy, but
>> still a tiny crack / area of moisture. There was water in the bilge just
>> aft of the rear keel bolt (I removed the floorboards and sponged the area
>> dry).  Water would not normally stay in that area, but the boat is tilted
>> back a little on the stands.  I have not had the keel bolts torqued in 7
>> years (since I bought Mojito).
>> Mast Step area
>> This is the first year I've noticed moisture in that area; there have
>> been hairline cracks in the antifouling before.  The mast is stepped and I
>> can't access that area through the mast step, which appears sound.
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>> Mojito
>> 1984 C&C 35-3
>> ****Branford**, **CT****
>>
>> ****
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