Yes, the survey included use of a moisture meter, and showed some wetness in the deck, which I fixed last year (and had expected to for some time), and a very limited area of the hull (which turned out to be fine and solid glass when samples were taken). It was about four years before I saw issues that led to investigation that led to work. I could perhaps have left things as they were but a) not very confidence inspiring and b) no way I could sell.
Tim On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM, William Hall <wh...@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Ouch. Brings back bad memories. I re-cored the deck of an E-22 once. Not > fun. > Did the surveyor go over the hull with a moisture meter as part of the > survey? How long was that before you had to tear into it like this? > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I haven't tried sharing anything via Google+, so don't know if they force >> you to have a Google ID. Anyway, here are some pictures of the core work >> from Spring 2011 and a couple of pictures from chainplate reinforcement >> from the prior year. This year it's just the keel sump (pictures to be >> posted later). >> >> I know this is not a particularly good advertisement for owning an older >> C&C, or trusting surveyors for that matter... >> >> >> https://plus.google.com/photos/101312290967793013089/albums/5832293047389624689 >> >> >> Tim >> Mojito >> 1984 C&C 35-3 >> Branford, CT >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:13 AM, dwight veinot < >> dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: >> >>> ** ** ** >>> >>> Tim**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Do you have any photos of the repair that you can share? If so I’d like >>> to have a look, please**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Dwight Veinot**** >>> >>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna**** >>> >>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS**** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim >>> Goodyear >>> *Sent:* January 11, 2013 9:59 AM >>> *To:* Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The cause of the cracks was wet core just outboard / above the solid >>> glass at the turn of the bilge (right by the mast step). There was a void >>> between the mast step assembly (glass) and the hull proper that allowed >>> water to sit for a while (29 years?) against the inner laminate... I now >>> have full confidence in the hull integrity (having replaced most of it over >>> the last two years), but am many dollars lighter. The temptation of a new >>> boat is growing.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Tim**** >>> >>> Mojito**** >>> >>> 1984 C&C 35-3**** >>> >>> ****Branford**, **CT******** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:*** >>> * >>> >>> Tim, >>> >>> My boat is a lot older than yours but if it's any indication, their >>> layup schedules weren't very good. I've re-tabbed most of the >>> bulkhead/hull joints in Touche's forward section. A few were detached or >>> broken but most were just bad practice. >>> >>> When I had the boat hauled about 5 years ago for a barrier coat, I could >>> see cosmetic cracks in the matte once the gelcoat was removed from the >>> underbody. These cracks aligned with the bulkheads. The bulkhead tabs had >>> no fillets. They were all 90 degree joints. This created stress points at >>> the joints which manifested themselves as the cosmetic cracks on the >>> outside of the hull. >>> >>> I have been re-tabbing all the bulkheads with filleted joints. I ground >>> out the old tabbing, created fillets and re-tabbed with 4 inch biaxial >>> tape. To create the fillets, I put thickened epoxy in the joint and >>> smoothed it with the back of a plastic spoon. This creates a nice radius >>> for the fillet. The filleted joints spread the load. This is particularly >>> important in the forward section of the boat as that's where the boat >>> pounds into waves. >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> Touche' 35-1 #83 >>> ****Mandeville**, **LA******** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:29 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> There is some tabbing in the bilge sump between floors and hull that has >>> become detached. I'll have that ground off and reattached and will add >>> glass on the outside and fair. Does anyone have access to any of the >>> original layup schedules in that area? I have copies of all the drawings >>> that were available, but none were that specific on construction methods. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thanks,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Tim**** >>> >>> Mojito**** >>> >>> C&C 35-3 1984**** >>> >>> ****Branford**, **CT******** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Graham Collins < >>> cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote:**** >>> >>> Hi Tim >>> I'd pull the cabin sole and see if the floor grid is still well attached >>> to the hull at the turn of the bilge, I'm guessing on the port side it is >>> not. >>> >>> Graham Collins >>> Secret Plans >>> C&C 35-III #11 >>> >>> >>> Tim Goodyear wrote:**** >>> >>> Hello all 35-3 owners - I'm looking for some advice, especially from >>> those who have re-habbed their keels on this model... >>> I was checking on Mojito this morning, and noticed beads of moisture in >>> two areas; a spot at the top of the keel trailing edge and an 8" hairline >>> crack on the port side at hull / keel stub (almost exactly where the mast >>> step is internally). Would this have been enough for you to go ahead with >>> major keel surgery? >>> Rear of keel >>> I've been trying to resolve this for a while; two separate boat yards >>> have had a go at if, and the area is now solid fiberglass / epoxy, but >>> still a tiny crack / area of moisture. There was water in the bilge just >>> aft of the rear keel bolt (I removed the floorboards and sponged the area >>> dry). Water would not normally stay in that area, but the boat is tilted >>> back a little on the stands. I have not had the keel bolts torqued in 7 >>> years (since I bought Mojito). >>> Mast Step area >>> This is the first year I've noticed moisture in that area; there have >>> been hairline cracks in the antifouling before. The mast is stepped and I >>> can't access that area through the mast step, which appears sound. >>> Thanks, >>> Tim >>> Mojito >>> 1984 C&C 35-3 >>> ****Branford**, **CT**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5525 - Release Date: 01/11/13 >>> **** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > William D. 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