I attack no beliefs, I only let these groups actions speak for themselves. The
Catholic Church (not ALL Christians) have murdered millions over the years, as have
White Europeans. It is just a fact. I present it to illustrate the true enemies of
free thinking and free living man, and it isn't the Jews.
On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote:
>
> > There is a good reason that the only writers which comment on this issue are
>Christian, and not Islamic, or Buddhist, etc. It's because the whole subject is
>invented by, and propagated by CHRISTIANS. No other group gives a damn. I do not
>want to see anyone here attacking other list members BELIEFS. You are totally free,
>and have my blessing, to believe what you will. I, and everyone else here is free to
>challenge information brought here. The Talmud business, the Protocals, etc., are
>all part of a systematic concocted "history" that has been perpetrated by the
>Catholic Church, and other prominent European (and now American) groups to place the
>"Jew" in the context of evil, cheapskate, cheat, etc. This has led to and been used
>to kill and imprison them, as well as take their land and property.
> > Sadly they aren't the only group to be so affected, just the one that most
>consistently is targetted, because they haven't yet been wiped out (despite many
>attempts to do so) like the others (Cathars, Anabaptists, etc.).
>
> No attacking of beliefs you say...but you can attack the beliefs of
> Christians even though you can't prove with certainty that they espoused
> those beliefs. Did the ADL pay you to post this?
> FWP
>
> >
> > On Wed, 21 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Josh,
> > >
> > > You've hurt my feelings now, to think I'm in your tribe too. So we take it
> > > that you endorse the Talmud then? I'd like to know why it isn't available in
> > > the public library, I think we all know why. Perhaps I could find some
> > > better writings on the Talmud, written by Jews. Would that appeal? I
> > > wouldn't want you to think I was only writing the Christian view.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the Kaballa? If I send something on that written by Christians would
> > > you say I particularly am deluded?
> > > Ahh if I send something on the Protocols written by a Christian will you
> > > also cut me down?
> > >
> > > I'm not particularly looking for Christian writers but bud you are
> > > outnumbered in USA. the chances of finding someone other than a Christian
> > > writer on this is slim. I have never seen a Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu ever
> > > take the trouble to write on these tabu subjects. Yet you particularly enjoy
> > > slandering Christians and Christianity and that's supposed to be Ok tarring
> > > everyone with the same brush.
> > >
> > > I posted it because it makes a change from always hearing bad things about
> > > Christianity and I thought it may be valuable to some. I'm not anti Jewish.
> > > Even some Jews don't know what's in the book. Just pick out what you want
> > > and leave the rest, if you don't then you are reduced to not sending stuff
> > > and commenting endlessly and tediously on those people's that do send..Its
> > > getting like a flock of seagulls pouncing on a tidbit to tear a piece for
> > > themselves.
> > >
> > > My posts are generating too many arguments. I haven't got time to pander to
> > > people's egos, its just information. I am interested in religious views of
> > > all kinds among other things.Pick on someone yer own size you big bully!
> > >
> > > Nicky
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 03:07
> > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
> > >
> > >
> > > Nicky Molloy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Talmud Exposed
> > > > http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm#Talmud Exposed
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > ----
> > > > http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm
> > > >
> > > > Contents:
> > > > The Talmud is Judasim's Holiest Book
> > > > Some Teachings of The Jewish Talmud
> > > > Insults Against The Blessed Virgin Mary
> > > > Talmud Attacks Christians
> > > > Christian Book Burning
> > > > Sick and Insane Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
> > > > Tales of a Roman Holocaust
> > > > A Revealing Admission
> > > > Pharisiac Rituals
> > > > A Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman
> > > > Genocide Advocated by The Talmud
> > > > Jewish Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are Not Humans
> > > > The Teachings of Maimonides
> > > > Deception and Dissimulation
> > > > Judean-Christian Response to The Talmud
> > > >
> > > > The Talmud is Judaism's Holiest Book
> > >
> > > Wrong! No Jew who ever lived thought that. EVER!
> > >
> > > > The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its
> > > > authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism.
> > >
> > > Wrong! No Jew in all of history ever thought that.
> > >
> > > > Evidence of
> > > > this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My
> > > > son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in
> > > > the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
> > >
> > > Total bullshit.
> > >
> > > > The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also
> > > be
> > > > seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more
> > > knowledge
> > > > of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
> > >
> > > Wrong! The Talmud is only studied by the ultra ortodox. Just about everyone
> > > in
> > > Israel has studied the actual Bible because the Bible is Jewish national
> > > history and part of school studies in the same way we learn about American
> > > history in schools here.
> > >
> > > Ethiopian Jews, with very few exceptions, know very little about their
> > > Jewish
> > > roots because they were isolated and forced into conversion to Christianity.
> > > Many knew they were Jews but had little reason to practice their herritage
> > > in the face of their neighbor's oppression. When they got to Israel they
> > > caught up. Today they are full integrated into the general society.
> > >
> > > > However, their religion is so
> > > > ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no
> > > > knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:
> > > >
> > > > "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the
> > > > Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the
> > > basis
> > > > of modern traditions never came their way."
> > >
> > > This is true.
> > > >
> > > > Because they don't traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopian
> > > Jews
> > > > are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to
> > > perform
> > > > marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
> > > >
> > > > Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential
> > > > rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism
> > > > and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law).
> > > > Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000
> > > > rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
> > > >
> > > > N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the
> > > rabbi's
> > > > authority:
> > > >
> > > > "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic
> > > > scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to
> > > the
> > > > study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological
> > > > Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held
> > > > the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet
> > > crossed
> > > > in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times,
> > > > April 10, 1993, p. 38).
> > > >
> > > > Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the
> > > > basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The
> > > rabbi's
> > > > credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other
> > > > studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26,
> > > 1993
> > > > states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud
> > > > to the exclusion of everything else."
> > >
> > > Everything you've read up to this point is wrong. I know this for a FACT
> > > because I am especially familiar the subject.
> > >
> > > If you think that you are going to get any sensible information about the
> > > Talmud from an outfit called - biblebelievers.org.au -, then you would be
> > > as deluded as poor Nicky. If you want good info about the subject, there
> > > are many books put out by Catholic and Protestant scholars who actually
> > > know something about the subject at hand.
> > >
> > > > The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is
> > > > partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had
> > > > not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions
> > > of
> > > > the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and
> > > Pharisees),
> > > > because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.
> > >
> > > This is such a ridiculous statement, only a really ignorant bigot could make
> > > it and only really really ignorant bigots believe it. This is like saying
> > > that
> > > christians don't really worship Jesus, but do worship a wafer they eat in
> > > church.
> > >
> > > This is the quality of information that consistently gets spewed out by
> > > Nicky. Wrong, stupid, and insane drivel.
> > >
> > > Joshua2
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