Yeah, can't be bothered with fisticuffs. Getting near the end of my day and I have some new cycling kit I want to try out ;-)
Never tried PostgreSQL. Can't be bothered with 3rd party DB comp libs, like you said. So if they do go down this route, I will probably go back to IB or (cack) SQL Server cos it works out of the box. This is more important to me than free, as usually clients incur the license costs anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neven MacEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [DUG]: Win 98 SE > James > > > I'm sure they both have their strengths and weaknesses. > > Now thats a cop out of a good stoush, Personaly I don't know why > the firebird crowd are bothering, firstly by their own ommission > they had to recode Interbase (which as we all know was gods gift > to SQL) because the it was a POS and now they are forking and > creating yet another DB component lib - all very amusing. > > Meanwhile PostgreSQL are taking the pragmatic route, if > Oracle does it we'll do it better, and winning. As for firebird > well they have that huge install base of IB to feed off > > I'd give FB about 3 years before everyone loses interest > > Neven > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Neven MacEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [DUG]: Win 98 SE > > > > > > > James > > > > > > If performance was the only issue you'd be using PostgreSQL > > > > > > > > > http://www.computerworld.com.au/idg2.nsf/All/2ADD84E6EBCEADE9CA256CB30075FA0 > > > 1!OpenDocument > > > > > > Neven > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "James Sugrue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list delphi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: [DUG]: Win 98 SE > > > > > > > > > > Never used the others but I had to port an app from Interbase to SQL > > > Server > > > > (for reason already stated). SQL Server is a dog in my books. Things > > were > > > > noticably slower under SQL Server. > > > > > > > > I agree with your other comments re cop out etc. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Jeremy North <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:27 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [DUG]: Win 98 SE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I must say that I don't put Interbase into the same light as an > > MS > > > > SQL > > > > > Server or Oracle or Sybase. > > > > > I use Interbase when I need a little more than a desktop database. > > > > > Generally my interbase apps are either single user, or very low in > > > > > continuous users. > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of several projects switch from Interbase to SQL > Server > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > corporate environment, because Interbase wasn't a company standard > > db > > > or > > > > > the > > > > > > PTB had never heard of Interbase. > > > > > > > > > > Well Borland can't really control the "wasn't a company standard" > cop > > > out. > > > > > I say a cop out (not at you personally) but at the fact that it is > > > surely > > > > > possible to make any software package a "company standard". > > Interested > > > to > > > > > know how those projects are performing under MS SQL Server compared > to > > > > > Interbase and also if the conversion costs were worth it, and if > they > > > want > > > > > to sell me there old licenses! > > > > > > > > > > The second part of the statement is partly Borlands fault, but could > > > also > > > > > be attributed to the companies lack of research prior to making > > > decisions. > > > > > > > > > > > Not in the least. I was just trying to make the point that Borland > > > must > > > > > have > > > > > > foreseen this when they opensourced IB6.0 > > > > > Perhaps they did this to renew there motivation towards the product > > > ;-))) > > > > > > > > > > JED. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/01/2003 12:12:19 PM: > > > > > > > > > > > Not in the least. I was just trying to make the point that Borland > > > must > > > > > have > > > > > > foreseen this when they opensourced IB6.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Firebird is a great initiative. IBPhoenix too. Borland > would > > > be > > > > > > better off worring about competing with SQL Server than Firebird. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of several projects switch from Interbase to SQL > Server > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > corporate environment, because Interbase wasn't a company standard > > db > > > or > > > > > the > > > > > > PTB had never heard of Interbase. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Jeremy North <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:29 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DUG]: Win 98 SE > > > > > > > > > Which if you take the position that Borland considers > Firebird > > a > > > > > > > > competitor > > > > > > > > > now makes a certain kind of sense (at least from their view > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A competitor of their own (Borland's) making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems you are upset by this... I think it's great. It will > > > continue > > > > > to > > > > > > > push the development of both database's to be better. A > definate > > > > > win-win > > > > > > > for us developers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until the feature sets get further apart, I don't see a reason > why > > > you > > > > > > > would want to support both Interbase and Firebird. Most of the > > > > > features > > > > > > > are the same (at the moment). I recall reading that one of the > > > > > interbase > > > > > > > component 3rd parties (can't remember but there are only 3 of > them > > > > > > Borland, > > > > > > > the ones used in Quick Desk and the ones used in Workbench) was > > > hoping > > > > > to > > > > > > > remain Interbase and Firebird compatible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and > > > > > > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom > > they > > > > > > > are addressed. 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