On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:55:50AM -0700, Will Chan wrote: > Again, I am not disputing that more features will make it in given Dave's > argument. In fact, I'm not really that keen on using the fixed cost of > release mgmt. for the reason of the move as well. Heck, I'm not even sure a > 6 month cycle would fix any of the issues that have already been outlined but > it'd be nice to try. However, I do know a couple of things: > > 1. We all want CS releases to be of certain quality. It needs to work and > upgrades need to work.
+1 - Absolutely > 2. ACS still relies too heavily on manual testing and most of it > unfortunately comes from 1 company. We cannot be dependent on another > company's schedule to ensure ACS has gone through enough proper testing to > achieve (1). Also agreed, but this only relates to release schedule for regression and upgrade testing really. Feature testing is something that should / can be handled prior to a merge in my mind. > 3. Most importantly, the extra 2 months will give QA more time, give features > more time to settle in, and more automated tests to be written for existing > features as well. I agree with Dave that more feature will come in. So > what? If they are not of good enough quality, we don't release it as part of > the ACS release. However, that extra 2 month will give earlier written > features more time to be potentially tested and used by people so that we fix > the most egregious bugs before we ship it. It will also better accommodate > people's schedule so they can fix bugs for their features. > How do you see the release schedule laying out with multiple releases over the course of time? What overlaps exist? We *really should not* plan on blocking new features from coming into master as they are completed. That's just an inhibitor to progress. Given that assumption, I fail to see how the we would be doing anything *but* increasing the overall change size by increasing the time between feature releases. That leads to increased "cost of release". > Personally, so far, I feel 4 months seems a bit rushed. > > Will