Thank you so much Craig for your valuable feedback, all the details make
perfect sense.

We will incorporate all the respective details in the proposal.

- Thanks & Regards,
Swapnil M Mane,
www.apache.org


On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 3:40 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Swapnil,
>
> I realize I'm coming late to this discussion but would like to offer a
> small bit of feedback.
>
> Like others, I think we need to try to get qualified people running local
> groups. One Member plus two PMC members gives us three, which is a magic
> number for decision-making here. Even if they don't attend all meetings,
> it's at least some oversight from folks who have earned merit.
>
> Random talks that present how we do things here, by people we don't know,
> makes me nervous. We might consider requiring presentations to be posted
> publicly some time (one week?) before the meeting which would allow for at
> least some oversight.
>
> And there are plenty of such presentations publicly available and some can
> be edited to suit (e.g. see the Training podling for examples of
> presentations on The Apache Way).
>
> I endorse the concept and look forward to a proposal.
>
> Craig
>
> > On Dec 11, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Swapnil M Mane <swapnilmm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you so much, everyone, for your kind and valuable inputs.
> > As a next step, we will work on drafting the ALC proposal to the board.
> >
> >
> > - Best regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane,
> > www.apache.org
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:20 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/6/19 4:42 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> >>> One potential (if not solution -- but at least a line of thought)
> could be
> >>> to bring these efforts into the fold officially by requiring them to be
> >>> official sub-projects of ComDev PMC. Then we can have a policy
> requiring
> >>> a certain governance oversight over those sub-projects (like requiring
> >>> a certain # of PMC/members, etc.).
> >>
> >> This just feels like too much structure/bureaucracy to me. We want just
> >> enough oversight, but we don't want to kill it with too much, either.
> >>
> >> If, at some later date, this grows to the point where it seems to *need*
> >> this much oversight, then, great, we take that step then.
> >>
> >> Small, reversible steps.
> >>
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> >> http://rcbowen.com/
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