Joe,

Thanks for your review and merge the PRs.

To pluggable webview interest group:
Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial introduction and discussion 
of next steps?

Thanks,
-ningxin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> 
> The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction!
> 
> I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to latest crosswalk
> embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at 6.35.124.0.
> 
> I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly (adding getView() API)
> to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView instead of extending
> it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case.
> 
> Please review them at:
> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3
> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2
> 
> Thanks,
> -ningxin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> >
> > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout.  Everyone should take a
> > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to four or five
> > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to get it down to
> > three.  Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the Android WebView API 
> > calls,
> but these can probably be modified.
> >
> > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well, since they
> > have their WebView as well.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> wrote:
> > > Hangout would be a good idea.
> > >
> > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week after next? If it
> > > works, please
> > feel free to schedule one and count me in.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -ningxin
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of
> > >> Michal Mocny
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM
> > >> To: dev
> > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >>
> > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce everyone?
> > >>
> > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are other cordova
> > >> contributors for whom this is top priority.  It would be nice if we
> > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are all going in the
> > >> right
> > direction.
> > >>
> > >> Quite exciting!
> > >>
> > >> -Michal
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited.
> > >> >
> > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the WebView API to
> > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously the layer API was
> > >> > not exposed as public usage).
> > >> >
> > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you to get Crosswalk
> > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > -ningxin
> > >> >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com]
> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM
> > >> > > To: dev
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hey
> > >> > >
> > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to the plugin README.
> > >> > > It
> > >> > should be
> > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although there's still the
> > >> > > issue of
> > >> > after-install
> > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the Crosswalk Library 
> > >> > > itself.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it should be there
> > >> > > with the
> > >> > old flow.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and way busy.
> > >> > > > Will be back in a week.  Super excited about this, though.)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -Michal
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Reviving this thread!
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see if/when we should land 
> > >> > > >> this?
> > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests still, but I would
> > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in.  Also, it'd be
> > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and make a WebView
> > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which methods should
> > >> > > >> die.  I want to get this released in the next month or so,
> > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Thanks
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to track various
> > >> > > >> > WebView
> > >> > progresses:
> > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created.  The licensing is ugly as
> > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept:
> > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to just load
> > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll
> > >> > > >> look hawt.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to go into Android
> > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the setProperty
> > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be preferences in 
> > >> > > >> > config.xml
> now.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional benefits to this
> > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to that platform more
> > >> > > >> >> quickly.  I'll probably take a look at that once I have
> > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk
> > finalized.
> > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian LeRoux
> > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff
> > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring in amazon fireos
> > >> > > >> >>> stuff
> > >> > > >> eventually
> > >> > > >> >>> too?
> > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the main Apache one.
> > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey
> > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on their WebView
> > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to choose your renderer
> > >> > > >> >>>> > in the
> > >> > config file
> > >> > > with this:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >     <preference name="webView"
> > >> > > >> >>>> > value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo
> > >> > > >> >>>> > va
> > >> > > >> >>>> > Web
> > >> > > >> >>>> > View
> > >> > > >> >>>> > " />
> > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the *.pak file and
> > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example project to get
> > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work.  The next thing that I'm going to do is
> > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a plugin and have it
> > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default
> > project.
> > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't seem to work, and
> > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly.  That being said, the
> > >> > > >> fact
> > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of Chrome/Chromium
> > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with
> > >> > > >> a
> > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work that needs to be
> > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as
> > >> > > >> long
> > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit into the
> > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should
> > >> > > >> be
> > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView or other third
> > >> > > >> >>>> > party
> > >> > renderers.
> > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with bullshit WebView
> > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org>
> > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> va
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> d
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which claims to have min
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk
> > >> > > >> webview:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro
> > >> > > >> id
> > >> > > >> /co
> > >> > > >> mmit
> > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you see:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ?
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org
> > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're working on this!
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's much to be gleaned
> yet.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once
> > >> > > >> you
> > >> > > >> >>>> start
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview I think it will
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more
> > >> > > >> obvious
> > >> > > >> >>>> what
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like. E.g., does x-walk
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the
> > >> > > >> >>>> concept of
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs WebView? Also
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the
> > >> > > >> >>>> class
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well as implement
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our
> > >> > interface.
> > >> > > >> E.g.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a "getView()" method on the
> > >> > interface.
> > >> > > >> Might
> > >> > > >> >>>> help
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API surface, but
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too
> > >> > > >> sure.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch existing
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members
> > >> > > >> (e.g. the
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring to) since
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything
> > >> > > >> public
> > >> > > >> >>>> could
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe now is a good time
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate
> > >> > > >> a
> > >> > > >> >>>> bunch
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with getters, or just
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them
> > >> > > >> to be
> > >> > > >> >>>> not
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the Crosswalk code again,
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to
> > >> > > >> take
> > >> > > >> >>>> a
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things pluggable.  I don't
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to
> > >> > > >> show
> > >> > > >> >>>> for
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse (which is why
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so screwed up), I
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some
> > >> > > >> interfaces
> > >> > > >> >>>> so
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in other browser renderers.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w
> > >> > > >> eb
> > >> > > >> vie
> > >> > > >> w
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with Crosswalk,
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's
> > >> > > >> probably
> > >> > > >> >>>> the
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in the Android
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party
> > >> > > >> WebView
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the GeckoView will be
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening
> > >> > > >> shortly
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work w.r.t. the CLI
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our
> > >> > > >> workflow at
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really just want to at
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start
> > >> > > >> to have
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and PhoneGap day.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so far? I'm going
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean
> > >> > > >> >>>> things
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely done a lot of
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that
> > >> > > >> would
> > >> > > >> >>>> make
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the hell out (i.e.
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in
> > >> > > >> >>>> public
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager).
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts?
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> >

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