Hey

A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest.  It'd be good if
we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well.  I haven't gotten
MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working yet.  For some
reason it's not rendering on the screen.

Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this feature finally
lands.

What do other people think?

Joe
On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Thanks for your review and merge the PRs.
>
> To pluggable webview interest group:
> Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial introduction and
> discussion of next steps?
>
> Thanks,
> -ningxin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> >
> > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction!
> >
> > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to latest crosswalk
> > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at 6.35.124.0.
> >
> > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly (adding
> getView() API)
> > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView instead of
> extending
> > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case.
> >
> > Please review them at:
> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3
> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -ningxin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM
> > > To: dev
> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >
> > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout.  Everyone should take a
> > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to four or five
> > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to get it down to
> > > three.  Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the Android WebView API
> calls,
> > but these can probably be modified.
> > >
> > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well, since they
> > > have their WebView as well.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Hangout would be a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week after next? If it
> > > > works, please
> > > feel free to schedule one and count me in.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -ningxin
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of
> > > >> Michal Mocny
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM
> > > >> To: dev
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > > >>
> > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce
> everyone?
> > > >>
> > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are other cordova
> > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority.  It would be nice if we
> > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are all going in the
> > > >> right
> > > direction.
> > > >>
> > > >> Quite exciting!
> > > >>
> > > >> -Michal
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the WebView API to
> > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously the layer API was
> > > >> > not exposed as public usage).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you to get Crosswalk
> > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > -ningxin
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com]
> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM
> > > >> > > To: dev
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hey
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to the plugin README.
> > > >> > > It
> > > >> > should be
> > > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although there's still the
> > > >> > > issue of
> > > >> > after-install
> > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the Crosswalk
> Library itself.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it should be there
> > > >> > > with the
> > > >> > old flow.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny
> > > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and way busy.
> > > >> > > > Will be back in a week.  Super excited about this, though.)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > -Michal
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread!
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see if/when we should
> land this?
> > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests still, but I would
> > > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in.  Also, it'd be
> > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and make a WebView
> > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which methods should
> > > >> > > >> die.  I want to get this released in the next month or so,
> > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to track various
> > > >> > > >> > WebView
> > > >> > progresses:
> > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created.  The licensing is ugly as
> > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept:
> > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to just load
> > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll
> > > >> > > >> look hawt.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to go into Android
> > > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the setProperty
> > > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be preferences in
> config.xml
> > now.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional benefits to this
> > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to that platform more
> > > >> > > >> >> quickly.  I'll probably take a look at that once I have
> > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk
> > > finalized.
> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian LeRoux
> > > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff
> > > >> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring in amazon fireos
> > > >> > > >> >>> stuff
> > > >> > > >> eventually
> > > >> > > >> >>> too?
> > > >> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the main Apache one.
> > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on their WebView
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to choose your renderer
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > in the
> > > >> > config file
> > > >> > > with this:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >     <preference name="webView"
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > va
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > View
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > " />
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the *.pak file and
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example project to get
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work.  The next thing that I'm going to do is
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a plugin and have it
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default
> > > project.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't seem to work, and
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly.  That being said, the
> > > >> > > >> fact
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of Chrome/Chromium
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with
> > > >> > > >> a
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work that needs to be
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as
> > > >> > > >> long
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit into the
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should
> > > >> > > >> be
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView or other third
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > party
> > > >> > renderers.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with bullshit WebView
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny
> > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> va
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> d
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which claims to have min
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk
> > > >> > > >> webview:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro
> > > >> > > >> id
> > > >> > > >> /co
> > > >> > > >> mmit
> > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Michal Mocny
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you see:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ?
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're working on this!
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's much to be
> gleaned
> > yet.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once
> > > >> > > >> you
> > > >> > > >> >>>> start
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview I think it will
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more
> > > >> > > >> obvious
> > > >> > > >> >>>> what
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like. E.g., does x-walk
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the
> > > >> > > >> >>>> concept of
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs WebView? Also
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the
> > > >> > > >> >>>> class
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well as implement
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our
> > > >> > interface.
> > > >> > > >> E.g.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a "getView()" method on the
> > > >> > interface.
> > > >> > > >> Might
> > > >> > > >> >>>> help
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API surface, but
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too
> > > >> > > >> sure.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch existing
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members
> > > >> > > >> (e.g. the
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring to) since
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything
> > > >> > > >> public
> > > >> > > >> >>>> could
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe now is a good time
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate
> > > >> > > >> a
> > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with getters, or just
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them
> > > >> > > >> to be
> > > >> > > >> >>>> not
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe Bowser
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the Crosswalk code again,
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to
> > > >> > > >> take
> > > >> > > >> >>>> a
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things pluggable.  I don't
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to
> > > >> > > >> show
> > > >> > > >> >>>> for
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse (which is why
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so screwed up), I
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some
> > > >> > > >> interfaces
> > > >> > > >> >>>> so
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in other browser
> renderers.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w
> > > >> > > >> eb
> > > >> > > >> vie
> > > >> > > >> w
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with Crosswalk,
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's
> > > >> > > >> probably
> > > >> > > >> >>>> the
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in the Android
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party
> > > >> > > >> WebView
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the GeckoView will be
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening
> > > >> > > >> shortly
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work w.r.t. the CLI
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our
> > > >> > > >> workflow at
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really just want to at
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start
> > > >> > > >> to have
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and PhoneGap day.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so far? I'm going
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean
> > > >> > > >> >>>> things
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely done a lot of
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that
> > > >> > > >> would
> > > >> > > >> >>>> make
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the hell out (i.e.
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in
> > > >> > > >> >>>> public
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager).
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts?
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> >
>

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