More engines, more better... On 23 Apr 2014 16:32, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey > > A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest. It'd be good if > we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well. I haven't gotten > MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working yet. For some > reason it's not rendering on the screen. > > Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this feature finally > lands. > > What do other people think? > > Joe > On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com> wrote: > > > Joe, > > > > Thanks for your review and merge the PRs. > > > > To pluggable webview interest group: > > Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial introduction and > > discussion of next steps? > > > > Thanks, > > -ningxin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > > > > > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction! > > > > > > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to latest > crosswalk > > > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at 6.35.124.0. > > > > > > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly (adding > > getView() API) > > > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView instead of > > extending > > > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case. > > > > > > Please review them at: > > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3 > > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2 > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -ningxin > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM > > > > To: dev > > > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > > > > > > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout. Everyone should take a > > > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to four or five > > > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to get it down to > > > > three. Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the Android WebView > API > > calls, > > > but these can probably be modified. > > > > > > > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well, since they > > > > have their WebView as well. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hangout would be a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week after next? If it > > > > > works, please > > > > feel free to schedule one and count me in. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > -ningxin > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of > > > > >> Michal Mocny > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM > > > > >> To: dev > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > > > >> > > > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce > > everyone? > > > > >> > > > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are other cordova > > > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority. It would be nice if > we > > > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are all going in the > > > > >> right > > > > direction. > > > > >> > > > > >> Quite exciting! > > > > >> > > > > >> -Michal > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin < > ningxin...@intel.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the WebView API to > > > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously the layer API > was > > > > >> > not exposed as public usage). > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you to get > Crosswalk > > > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > > >> > -ningxin > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM > > > > >> > > To: dev > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Hey > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to the plugin > README. > > > > >> > > It > > > > >> > should be > > > > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although there's still the > > > > >> > > issue of > > > > >> > after-install > > > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the Crosswalk > > Library itself. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it should be > there > > > > >> > > with the > > > > >> > old flow. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny > > > > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and way busy. > > > > >> > > > Will be back in a week. Super excited about this, though.) > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > -Michal > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread! > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see if/when we should > > land this? > > > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests still, but I would > > > > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in. Also, it'd be > > > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and make a WebView > > > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which methods should > > > > >> > > >> die. I want to get this released in the next month or so, > > > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly appreciated. > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to track various > > > > >> > > >> > WebView > > > > >> > progresses: > > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246 > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created. The licensing is ugly as > > > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept: > > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to just load > > > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll > > > > >> > > >> look hawt. > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to go into Android > > > > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the setProperty > > > > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be preferences in > > config.xml > > > now. > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional benefits to this > > > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to that platform more > > > > >> > > >> >> quickly. I'll probably take a look at that once I have > > > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk > > > > finalized. > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian LeRoux > > > > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff > > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring in amazon > fireos > > > > >> > > >> >>> stuff > > > > >> > > >> eventually > > > > >> > > >> >>> too? > > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the main Apache > one. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on their WebView > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to choose your > renderer > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > in the > > > > >> > config file > > > > >> > > with this: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <preference name="webView" > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > va > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > View > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > " /> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the *.pak file and > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example project to get > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work. The next thing that I'm going to do > is > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a plugin and have it > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default > > > > project. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't seem to work, and > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly. That being said, the > > > > >> > > >> fact > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of Chrome/Chromium > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with > > > > >> > > >> a > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work that needs to be > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as > > > > >> > > >> long > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit into the > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should > > > > >> > > >> be > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView or other third > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > party > > > > >> > renderers. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with bullshit WebView > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> va > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> d > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which claims to have min > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk > > > > >> > > >> webview: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro > > > > >> > > >> id > > > > >> > > >> /co > > > > >> > > >> mmit > > > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04 > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Michal Mocny > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you see: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ? > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Grieve < > > > > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're working on this! > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's much to be > > gleaned > > > yet. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once > > > > >> > > >> you > > > > >> > > >> >>>> start > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview I think it will > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more > > > > >> > > >> obvious > > > > >> > > >> >>>> what > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like. E.g., does x-walk > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the > > > > >> > > >> >>>> concept of > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs WebView? Also > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the > > > > >> > > >> >>>> class > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well as implement > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our > > > > >> > interface. > > > > >> > > >> E.g. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a "getView()" method on > the > > > > >> > interface. > > > > >> > > >> Might > > > > >> > > >> >>>> help > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API surface, but > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too > > > > >> > > >> sure. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch existing > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members > > > > >> > > >> (e.g. the > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring to) since > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything > > > > >> > > >> public > > > > >> > > >> >>>> could > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe now is a good > time > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate > > > > >> > > >> a > > > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with getters, or > just > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them > > > > >> > > >> to be > > > > >> > > >> >>>> not > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe Bowser > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the Crosswalk code again, > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to > > > > >> > > >> take > > > > >> > > >> >>>> a > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things pluggable. I don't > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to > > > > >> > > >> show > > > > >> > > >> >>>> for > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse (which is why > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so screwed up), I > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some > > > > >> > > >> interfaces > > > > >> > > >> >>>> so > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in other browser > > renderers. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w > > > > >> > > >> eb > > > > >> > > >> vie > > > > >> > > >> w > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with Crosswalk, > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's > > > > >> > > >> probably > > > > >> > > >> >>>> the > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in the Android > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party > > > > >> > > >> WebView > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the GeckoView will > be > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening > > > > >> > > >> shortly > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work w.r.t. the CLI > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our > > > > >> > > >> workflow at > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really just want to > at > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start > > > > >> > > >> to have > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and PhoneGap day. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so far? I'm going > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean > > > > >> > > >> >>>> things > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely done a lot of > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that > > > > >> > > >> would > > > > >> > > >> >>>> make > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the hell out (i.e. > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in > > > > >> > > >> >>>> public > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager). > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts? > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > > >> > > >> >>>> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >
