Does anyone have a contact at moz that we could invite?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> wrote: > Depends on their interest level I think. Faster we can get this out > the door the better. If we need to delay for geckoview, then I don't > think we should gate on it, just release it after. > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote: >> More engines, more better... >> On 23 Apr 2014 16:32, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey >>> >>> A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest. It'd be good if >>> we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well. I haven't gotten >>> MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working yet. For some >>> reason it's not rendering on the screen. >>> >>> Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this feature finally >>> lands. >>> >>> What do other people think? >>> >>> Joe >>> On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Joe, >>> > >>> > Thanks for your review and merge the PRs. >>> > >>> > To pluggable webview interest group: >>> > Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial introduction and >>> > discussion of next steps? >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > -ningxin >>> > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com] >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM >>> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>> > > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >>> > > >>> > > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction! >>> > > >>> > > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to latest >>> crosswalk >>> > > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at 6.35.124.0. >>> > > >>> > > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly (adding >>> > getView() API) >>> > > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView instead of >>> > extending >>> > > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case. >>> > > >>> > > Please review them at: >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3 >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2 >>> > > >>> > > Thanks, >>> > > -ningxin >>> > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] >>> > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM >>> > > > To: dev >>> > > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >>> > > > >>> > > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout. Everyone should take a >>> > > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to four or five >>> > > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to get it down to >>> > > > three. Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the Android WebView >>> API >>> > calls, >>> > > but these can probably be modified. >>> > > > >>> > > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well, since they >>> > > > have their WebView as well. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > > > > Hangout would be a good idea. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week after next? If it >>> > > > > works, please >>> > > > feel free to schedule one and count me in. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks, >>> > > > > -ningxin >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> -----Original Message----- >>> > > > >> From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of >>> > > > >> Michal Mocny >>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM >>> > > > >> To: dev >>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce >>> > everyone? >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are other cordova >>> > > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority. It would be nice if >>> we >>> > > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are all going in the >>> > > > >> right >>> > > > direction. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Quite exciting! >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> -Michal >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin < >>> ningxin...@intel.com> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited. >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the WebView API to >>> > > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously the layer API >>> was >>> > > > >> > not exposed as public usage). >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you to get >>> Crosswalk >>> > > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture. >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > Thanks, >>> > > > >> > -ningxin >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] >>> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM >>> > > > >> > > To: dev >>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Hey >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to the plugin >>> README. >>> > > > >> > > It >>> > > > >> > should be >>> > > > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although there's still the >>> > > > >> > > issue of >>> > > > >> > after-install >>> > > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the Crosswalk >>> > Library itself. >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it should be >>> there >>> > > > >> > > with the >>> > > > >> > old flow. >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny >>> > > > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org> >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and way busy. >>> > > > >> > > > Will be back in a week. Super excited about this, though.) >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > -Michal >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> wrote: >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread! >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see if/when we should >>> > land this? >>> > > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests still, but I would >>> > > > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in. Also, it'd be >>> > > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and make a WebView >>> > > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which methods should >>> > > > >> > > >> die. I want to get this released in the next month or so, >>> > > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly appreciated. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > >> Thanks >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to track various >>> > > > >> > > >> > WebView >>> > > > >> > progresses: >>> > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246 >>> > > > >> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created. The licensing is ugly as >>> > > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept: >>> > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine >>> > > > >> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to just load >>> > > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll >>> > > > >> > > >> look hawt. >>> > > > >> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to go into Android >>> > > > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the setProperty >>> > > > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be preferences in >>> > config.xml >>> > > now. >>> > > > >> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional benefits to this >>> > > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to that platform more >>> > > > >> > > >> >> quickly. I'll probably take a look at that once I have >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk >>> > > > finalized. >>> > > > >> > > >> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian LeRoux >>> > > > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring in amazon >>> fireos >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> stuff >>> > > > >> > > >> eventually >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> too? >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the main Apache >>> one. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on their WebView >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to choose your >>> renderer >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > in the >>> > > > >> > config file >>> > > > >> > > with this: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <preference name="webView" >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > va >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > View >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > " /> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the *.pak file and >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example project to get >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work. The next thing that I'm going to do >>> is >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a plugin and have it >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default >>> > > > project. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't seem to work, and >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly. That being said, the >>> > > > >> > > >> fact >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of Chrome/Chromium >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with >>> > > > >> > > >> a >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work that needs to be >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as >>> > > > >> > > >> long >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit into the >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should >>> > > > >> > > >> be >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView or other third >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > party >>> > > > >> > renderers. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with bullshit WebView >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> va >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> d >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which claims to have min >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk >>> > > > >> > > >> webview: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro >>> > > > >> > > >> id >>> > > > >> > > >> /co >>> > > > >> > > >> mmit >>> > > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04 >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Michal Mocny >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org >>> > > > >> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you see: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ? >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Grieve < >>> > > > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're working on this! >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's much to be >>> > gleaned >>> > > yet. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once >>> > > > >> > > >> you >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> start >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview I think it will >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more >>> > > > >> > > >> obvious >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> what >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like. E.g., does x-walk >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> concept of >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs WebView? Also >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> class >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well as implement >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our >>> > > > >> > interface. >>> > > > >> > > >> E.g. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a "getView()" method on >>> the >>> > > > >> > interface. >>> > > > >> > > >> Might >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> help >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API surface, but >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too >>> > > > >> > > >> sure. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch existing >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members >>> > > > >> > > >> (e.g. the >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring to) since >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything >>> > > > >> > > >> public >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> could >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe now is a good >>> time >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate >>> > > > >> > > >> a >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with getters, or >>> just >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them >>> > > > >> > > >> to be >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> not >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe Bowser >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> > > >> wrote: >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the Crosswalk code again, >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to >>> > > > >> > > >> take >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> a >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things pluggable. I don't >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to >>> > > > >> > > >> show >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> for >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse (which is why >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so screwed up), I >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some >>> > > > >> > > >> interfaces >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> so >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in other browser >>> > renderers. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w >>> > > > >> > > >> eb >>> > > > >> > > >> vie >>> > > > >> > > >> w >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with Crosswalk, >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's >>> > > > >> > > >> probably >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> the >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in the Android >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party >>> > > > >> > > >> WebView >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the GeckoView will >>> be >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening >>> > > > >> > > >> shortly >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work w.r.t. the CLI >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our >>> > > > >> > > >> workflow at >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really just want to >>> at >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start >>> > > > >> > > >> to have >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and PhoneGap day. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so far? I'm going >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> things >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely done a lot of >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that >>> > > > >> > > >> would >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> make >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the hell out (i.e. >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> public >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager). >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts? >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>
