I would suggest that the lack of response on the logo change means we don't need it. I think there should at least be some discussion before moving on it.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Brad Gashler <bra...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I wanted to follow up on the branding changes proposed by Ben Sperry (his > email is included below). > > I’m planning on implementing his changes, since no objections were raised. > This includes the new logo, with its modern typeface, as shown in picture A > below. Also, we may replace the background image with the simple gradient as > shown in picture B below. Please let me know if there are any concerns > replacing this background image. > > Thanks, > > Brad Gashler > > > A) New logo only > > > > B) New logo and new gradient background > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Sperry [mailto:b...@ionic.io] > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign > > I really like where this update is going, and what it signals to the > community: Cordova is a legitimate, modern tech solution that's still very > much alive and growing. The website look/feel has a lot of confidence, love > it! > > I'm curious what thoughts are around a Cordova logo update itself. I put > together a version that I thought might support the evolution of Cordova into > a more modern looking brand. Would love feedback on this early logo update > mockup: regular > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fionic-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-3d-proposal.png&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oKVaCThqWbhTgak3efAaM%2f3f1d1wGyqazXPdboZjsAk%3d> > / flat > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fionic-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-flat-proposal.png&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=vyJ80acz9%2bDPk4YZuidiCPknjl%2fwOCKN7KMyxem5jJg%3d> > > A few things to note: The typeface is really the big update - the little > robot logo itself can stay the same (because he is awesome). The existing > typeface is just plain-old Helvetica, which is totally fine, but can > sometimes feel empty of any personality or uniqueness. My suggestion is > simply to update it to a more contemporary, custom typeface (in this case, > Brandon Text > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fhvdfonts.com%2fbrandontext%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qFtGPbwutLEDyHils6NLuVjZrmSedM%2bPAM%2fv42v1E4s%3d>). > > Would love to hear any and all thoughts on this! > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Frederico Galvão < > frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br> wrote: > > > Looks great indeed, nice job! > > > > One thing I noticed is that > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fproje > > cts.apache.org%2fproject.html%3fcordova&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40micros > > oft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd > > 011db47%7c1&sdata=ZeVerioKs9Eu8faVlumAOu0bmmXPyqq6tJ5gsXU2KNM%3d > > seems very outdated. > > > > 2015-09-23 22:49 GMT-03:00 Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>: > > > > > This looks great. > > > Can you add a sub page link in the navigation column to this page? > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordov > > a.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fplugin_ref%2fsp > > ec.html&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408 > > d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Ng%2fQbCHankWf > > qNC%2fx9Xsaj1OxfSkoMhaH97WmznRfeI%3d > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:50 PM Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Waw. It looks really really nice! Thanks so much for taking care > > > > of > > this. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thank you for doing this, the site is great! > > > > > The community will love this. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Ryan J. Salva < > > ryanjsa...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > TLDR > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Feedback requested for a proposed Cordova website redesign > > > > > > at > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% > > > > > > 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg > > > > > > a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b > > > > > > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf > > > > > > qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The redesign was influenced by interviews with 300+ mobile > > > > > > developers. From these conversations, we identified six top > > > > > > level > > > > > > goals: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Establish that Cordova is an active project relevant to > > developers > > > > > > in 2016 (the future!) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Show the potential of hybrid apps by highlighting some rock > > > > > star-quality apps > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Demonstrate critical mass by sharing a diverse set of tools > > > > > > and businesses that have “made a bet” on Cordova > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Improve developer’s first experience with Cordova by adding > > quick > > > > > > start instructions and explanatory text for key concepts (e.g. > > > > > > plugins) > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Increase community participation by raising the visibility > > > > > > of public forums (e.g. Slack, StackOverflow, Twitter) > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Maintain consistency with the current website (i.e. > > > > > > branding and content parity) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- The long read ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Grab a cup of coffee. This is a long one. > > > > > > > > > > > > As some of you may know, several committers from the Seattle > > > > > > area (including Nikhil, Parashuram and I) have just completed > > > > > > a long > > > series > > > > > > of interviews with mobile developers. In the past three > > > > > > months, > > I’ve > > > > > > personally interviewed over 100 developers. The team has > > collectively > > > > > > interviewed closer to 300. We learned a lot and hope to share > > > > > > a summary (with infographics!) of our insights soon. In the > > meantime, I > > > > > > want to share one of the more poignant quotes from one interview. > > > When > > > > > > asked, “How can we make your job easier?”, one Cordova > > > > > > developer > > > > > > responded: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “Take the stigma away from hybrid development. I can prove > > > > > > that > > it’s > > > > > > the right tool for the job, but I have to prove it > > > > > > over-and-over again. I wish that I didn’t have to have the > > > > > > same conversation > > every > > > > > > time I want to use Cordova with a new manager or client.” -- > > Murali, > > > > > > Cordova Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are lots of ways to solve this problem, but one of the > > > > > > easier and more visible ways is through Cordova’s front-door. > > > > > > The Cordova website has served us well for the last 5+ years, > > > > > > but I believe a redesign could help us address some pain points in > > > > > > the community. > > To > > > > > > put it simply, we have a public perception problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “It’s hard to argue for Cordova when there are few examples of > > > > > > it being successfully used.” -- Gary, Ionic Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Developers and architects are looking for examples of good > > > development > > > > > > to prove that high-quality, fast apps are possible. So, we > > > > > > thought > > it > > > > > > might be good to highlight some rock star-quality apps on the > > > > > > home page. Anyone can submit a PR to add their app so long as > > > > > > it appears > > > in > > > > > > a public store and uses Cordova. If the list of apps gets too > > > > > > long (and it will), then we’ll randomize display. The same is > > > > > > true for a list of tools and platforms that build on top of Cordova. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “There are so many layers to cross-platform development, it’s > > > > > > hard > > to > > > > > > know how they all fit together. It’s even harder to know if > > > > > > you’re missing a critical piece.” -- Mike, Cordova Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By itself, the website redesign won’t address this problem. We > > > > > > need some good architectural docs that not only illustrate how > > > > > > Cordova works, but also how it integrates with the larger ecosystem > > > > > > (e.g. > > > > > > Crosswalk). However, we’re also hoping that by adding a little > > > > > > more “hand-holding” on the site, we can help developers > > > > > > achieve success faster. For example, we provide simple > > > > > > instructions for “Getting Started” on the home page. And, on > > > > > > the Plugins page, we provide a quick explanation of plugins’ role > > > > > > in Cordova development. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “It’s not clear where I can go for support.” -- Geoff, Cordova > > > > Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay… none of us want to provide customer support for the > > > > > > whole community, but I want to make it easy for people to find > > > > > > the community. To that end, our goal was to integrate > > > > > > prominent > > pointers > > > > > > to all the places where our community aggregates – e.g. Slack, > > > > > > StackOverflow, JIRA and mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Change for the sake of change is… well, for people with more > > > > > > time > > on > > > > > > their hands than me, but this seems like the right time for a > > change > > > > > > to the Cordova website. There’s a compelling developer need > > > > > > and > > > little > > > > > > risk in making the change. > > > > > > > > > > > > Barring any grievous concerns, I'd love to get the new site > > launched > > > > > > ASAP. If we need to make small changes after launch, it will > > > > > > be > > easy > > > > > > to iterate. If you see any bugs that need to be fixed, please > > > > > > file them here: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f > > > > > > %2fissues.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB%2fcomponent%2f123205 > > > > > > 62%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5d > > > > > > e06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata= > > > > > > cqI15afm9l5RsQ0Oz9sg8EHqsUK6p2ESn8HyfhHFAq0%3d > > > > > > > > > > > > I open the floor to discussion ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% > > > > > > 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg > > > > > > a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b > > > > > > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf > > > > > > qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Ryan J. 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