Personal preference I guess. Only 60~ people in that group and
everyone in it has full name, address, telephone, etc. on file. Seems
very restricted already. We have to review all the edits anyway, even
if they come from other committers, so I don't really see an upside
unless we start to get a lot of low quality contributions -- which
IMHO would be a good problem to have.
I definitely think our website should remain restricted to
committers. I sort of see that as separate from the rest of our spaces.
-David
On Apr 18, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
If we are going to restrict access to our wiki doc then we should
limit grating access to the project members. I'm not in favor of a
massive asf-cla group
cheers!
hernan
David Blevins wrote:
It's already ASF policy that an ICLA be on file for anyone to get
write access to a confluence space used for official documentation
or a website (plain "wiki" usage is exempt). Updated a good 40~
cwiki spaces to use the asf-cla group instead of confluence-users,
including ours, a couple weeks ago after some abuse so we're
compliant with the minimum policy.
Some groups, like the Incubator, are talking that you need to be a
committer to get write access -- not just have a CLA on file. I'm
not sure I see the need for raising the bar that high. I like the
idea of the check box as an alternate to having a CLA on file,
assuming this is kosher with infra.
-David
On Apr 16, 2008, at 7:00 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
All,
To properly protect the IP rights of our Wiki-based documentation,
we need to stop allowing unrestricted write access to our Wiki.
Wiki contributors should be required to have an ICLA on file with
the ASF. I also think that we need to hold a PMC vote before
granting this access.
I'll also take this opportunity to remind the community that Wiki
updates are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] These updates need to
be reviewed by the community, just like all code updates.
IMO, we don't want this to be a heavy-weight process. We don't
want there to be a significant hurdle to contributing
documentation. For code updates, patch files attached to Jira's
with the "Grant license to ASF" button checked takes care of these
IP concerns. To my knowledge, there's no patch file equivalent for
updates to a Wiki. We could require that documentation updates be
contributed in the form of simple ascii text files that are
attached to a Jira. This would address our IP concerns, but is not
ideal IMO.
To keep this as light-weight as possible, I propose we formalize
the concept of "contributor". A contributor would have write
access to our Wiki documentation as well as the ability to assign
Jira's to him/herself.
I think the process would go something like this...
0. Reset write access to our wiki to be only the current set of
committers on the project.
1. New documentation contributions from non-committers/
contributors must be submitted via a Jira, with the "Grant License
to the ASF" box checked. This is just like any code/bug-fix
submission.
2. Once a new participant has expressed interest in contributing
to the project and/or has contributed documentation or bug fixes,
a PMC vote will be called to grant the new participant
"contributor" rights. As all PMC votes, this vote is a majority
vote, require a minimum of 3 +1 votes, and will last for a minimum
of 72 hours.
3. Once a vote has passed, the participant will be invited to join
the project as a 'contributor'. Assuming he/she accepts, the
participant must then submit an ICLA to the ASF.
Once the ICLA is on file, the new 'contributor' will give given
write access to our wiki and the ability to assign Jira's.
4. The new contributor will be announced to the community.
I've grouped Jira rights with wiki rights in the above. This is
not strictly necessary, but grouping the two seems like a
reasonable step.
This is my first pass at a proposal. We can tweak this process in
a number of ways and there are alternatives. I think the hard
requirements are 1) the PMC must vote and 2) an ICLA must be filed
with the ASF.
Until we resolve this issue, we need to restrict Wiki write access
to be the current set of Geronimo committers.
--kevan
