>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-20216
Also, I've updated dependencies and fixed BLAS issue (tested with intel mkl
blas on ubuntu 22.04)

ср, 16 авг. 2023 г. в 12:11, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>:

> I've filed a ticket and created 2 PRs. After tuning of TC I'm going to
> merge both of them, if nobody disagrees with it.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-20216
>
>
>
> пн, 14 авг. 2023 г. в 22:29, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>
>> >> * com.github.fommil.netlib:core:1.1.2 - not developed and archived
>> since 2017. Last version released in 2013 [2]
>> Moreover, this version is so outdated and JNI extension was so strangely
>> made (linked to libgfortran3 for example), that native BLAS simply doesn't
>> work.
>> Always fallback option is used (f2jBLAS, and it is also outdated).
>> There is a modern option -- https://github.com/luhenry/netlib, it is
>> used in spark mllib.
>>
>> I have run all tests successfully with it (with few lines changed, of
>> course) using native blas (libopenblas on ubuntu 22.04)
>>
>> So it is possible to state that nobody has run it on native blas. So I
>> have some concerns about existence of prod like installations with Ignite
>> ML module
>>
>> пт, 11 авг. 2023 г. в 13:14, Николай Ижиков <nizhi...@apache.org>:
>>
>>> A few cents to let you know how abandoned ML module is.
>>>
>>> 1. Last valuable commit December 9, 2020 -
>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/04f6a33851d9f7bd269a09fdc2c74485b1e01a8a
>>>
>>> 2. Dependencies and current versions of them:
>>>
>>>   * com.dropbox.core:dropbox-core-sdk:2.1.1 current version is - 5.4.5
>>> [1]
>>>   * com.github.fommil.netlib:core:1.1.2 - not developed and archived
>>> since 2017. Last version released in 2013 [2]
>>>   * org.apache.commons:commons-rng-core:1.0 current version is 1.5 [3]
>>>   * com.zaxxer:SparseBitSet:1.0 current version is 1.2 [4]
>>>   * ai.catboost:catboost-prediction:0.24 current version is 1.2 [5]
>>>   * ai.h2o:h2o-genmodel:3.26.0.8 current version is 3.42.0.2 [6]
>>>
>>> ML community make a huge step forward since 2020.
>>> So I doubt ML features and tools integrations works as expected nowadays.
>>> Those type of Ignite features(abandoned or supported partially) has to
>>> be in extensions.
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/dropbox/dropbox-sdk-java
>>> [2] https://github.com/fommil/netlib-java
>>> [3] https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng/commons-rng-core/
>>> [4] https://github.com/brettwooldridge/SparseBitSet
>>> [5] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/ai.catboost/catboost-prediction
>>> [6] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/ai.h2o/h2o-genmodel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > 11 авг. 2023 г., в 12:19, Kseniya Romanova <ksroman...@apache.org>
>>> написал(а):
>>> >
>>> > As far as I know, the integration was removed from the Tensorflow side.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 2:04 PM Andrey Mashenkov <
>>> andrey.mashen...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ivan,
>>> >>
>>> >>> Actually, I haven't found any integration with tensorflow in AI code.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ok. You are right.
>>> >> Tensorflow is mentioned in docs: docs/_docs/setup.adoc.
>>> >>
>>> >> Adapters may require compilation time dependencies, but these
>>> dependencies
>>> >> shouldn't be part or release package,
>>> >> regardless whether the ML module is a part of Ignite or extensions.
>>> WDYT?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 1:36 PM Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Actually, I haven't found any integration with tensorflow in AI code.
>>> >>> Actually, all integrations are some adapters that allow to load
>>> >> pretrained
>>> >>> models (h2o, catboost etc.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> чт, 10 авг. 2023 г. в 13:08, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I am personally for moving to extensions. Alex has already mentioned
>>> >> all
>>> >>>> the reasons why it should be done and all of them are quite
>>> important.
>>> >>>> The module seems to be quite independent and there is no problem to
>>> >> move
>>> >>>> it to ignite-extensions.
>>> >>>> So I am +1 for moving to ignite-extensions.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> чт, 10 авг. 2023 г. в 12:45, Kseniya Romanova <
>>> ksroman...@apache.org>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> do you know anyone who uses it?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I know some teams, who do. At the last Ignite Summit we had a talk
>>> >>>>> featuring Ml module (from the Groovy community).
>>> >>>>> Anyway, We need here the module maintainer opinion
>>> >>>>>  + Alex
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:38 PM Andrey Mashenkov <
>>> >>>>> andrey.mashen...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> -1 for removal.
>>> >>>>>> 0 for relocation
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> imho, TC resources and module size aren't good arguments for
>>> >>>>>> removal/moving.
>>> >>>>>> ML tests could be run nightly.
>>> >>>>>> ML module contains few integrations (with TensorFlow and other),
>>> >> these
>>> >>>>>> optional integrations are wighty and could be moved to extension,
>>> >>>>>> but core functionality still can be left untouched if it is highly
>>> >>>>> coupled
>>> >>>>>> with core Ignite and moving to extension is hard.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:22 PM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> +1 to relocation
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:09 PM Alex Plehanov <
>>> >>> plehanov.a...@gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Pavel, do you know anyone who uses it?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like it isn't used at all (no questions on mail lists, no
>>> >>>>>>>> tickets), but we spend developers time to build module with
>>> >> every
>>> >>>>>>>> Ignite rebuild, we spend users traffic to download module (ML
>>> >> with
>>> >>>>>>>> dependencies takes about 1/4 of our binary release package size)
>>> >>> and
>>> >>>>>>>> we spend team-city resources to test module.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> +1 for removing or moving to extensions.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ср, 9 авг. 2023 г. в 14:19, Pavel Tupitsyn <
>>> >> ptupit...@apache.org
>>> >>>> :
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Does it have any outstanding issues? A stable and useful
>>> >> module
>>> >>>>>> should
>>> >>>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>>>> be removed just because it does not evolve.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 1:46 PM Ivan Daschinsky <
>>> >>>>> ivanda...@apache.org
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Igniters, seems that this module is completely abandoned for
>>> >>>>> more
>>> >>>>>>> than
>>> >>>>>>>> 2
>>> >>>>>>>>>> years. But it is enormous and it seems that nobody wants to
>>> >>> take
>>> >>>>>> care
>>> >>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>> it. I suggest just removing it or moving it to extensions
>>> >> (as
>>> >>>>>>> option).
>>> >>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>>> >>>>>> Andrey V. Mashenkov
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >> Andrey V. Mashenkov
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>


-- 
Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy

Reply via email to