Hi all,

I personally feel we should allow both JIRA and Github for issue management, 
and let contributers use their own judgement on which one to use. JIRA contains 
wealth of information and many open issues for review, while Github allows 
easier review of source codes. 
So do either JIRA + Patch, or GH + PR.

Regards,
James

On 2020/03/14 10:43:31, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: 
> Hi Benjamin, All,
> 
> That's a good point indeed. And we 1st need to clearly define what are the 
> old and the new processes. Here is a try:
> 
> The "old process" (not so old, changed with Git replacing Svn, hence the 
> discussion) is
> 
>   * use Jira to create issues with possibly attached patches and discussion 
> there. With all what Jira affords...
>   * You can also link a GH PR from Jira. And have a patch, then it begins to 
> be confusing (which one is the later, etc.)
>   * You can create a PR in GH and discuss it there, nothing else. There 
> should not be crossed discussions in Jira and GH
>   * I certainly miss other points, that's the gist
> 
> The new process is not clearly defined, here are 2 possible versions:
> 
>   * Jira is only used for history reason, no more issue creations allowed
>   * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC 
> agreement). It's then a replacement of Jira and we need to be quite careful
>     doing so.
> 
>   * Jira continues to be used as is. With IMO some restrictions, like: if you 
> have a patch you don't create a PR, it's one or the other way.
>   * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC 
> agreement) an discuss them there. PR or attached patch can be used to 
> contribute.
> 
> As you see, for me the question is not  "GitHub or Jira"  but "GitHub or Jira 
> or both" I have changed the title of the related wiki page accordingly:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Question%3A+GitHub+or+Jira+or+both
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jacques
> 
> Le 13/03/2020 à 17:41, Benjamin Jugl a écrit :
> > I have been following this discussion for a while.  However, I still wonder 
> > if this discussion is about which of the two options is the better one. 
> > In my opinion, the discussion should rather be about whether the potential 
> > benefits of a new process justify the effort to change the old one. It 
> > seems to me at least that this aspect is being neglected a bit.
> >
> > Am 13.03.20 um 10:24 schrieb Michael Brohl:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'd like to encourage everyone to visit the wiki page 
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT,
> >>  read 
> >> carefully, check, dicuss and ask questions to get to a good information 
> >> base for an important decision to make.
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone,
> >>
> >> Michael Brohl
> >>
> >> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 12.03.20 um 17:28 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> >>> You are all invited to review, discuss in comments and possibly add pro 
> >>> and cons on this page
> >>>
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT
> >>>
> >>> It would else become unreadable here...
> >>>
> >>> Hopefully we will get to a consensus...
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> 

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