Hi All,

I believe we are now pragmatically using JIRA + Patch, or GH + PR.

Remains the question about allowing the creation of issues in GH. It seems to 
me that nobody actually asked for that since Jira is enough for our needs.

So I should not need more than what we use currently and can put https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Question%3A+GitHub+or+Jira+or+both in Attic now, right?

Jacques

Le 18/03/2020 à 18:22, Michael Brohl a écrit :
+1 James!

Thanks,

Michael


Am 18.03.20 um 17:13 schrieb James Yong:
Hi all,

I personally feel we should allow both JIRA and Github for issue management, and let contributers use their own judgement on which one to use. JIRA contains wealth of information and many open issues for review, while Github allows easier review of source codes.
So do either JIRA + Patch, or GH + PR.

Regards,
James

On 2020/03/14 10:43:31, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
Hi Benjamin, All,

That's a good point indeed. And we 1st need to clearly define what are the old 
and the new processes. Here is a try:

The "old process" (not so old, changed with Git replacing Svn, hence the 
discussion) is

   * use Jira to create issues with possibly attached patches and discussion 
there. With all what Jira affords...
   * You can also link a GH PR from Jira. And have a patch, then it begins to 
be confusing (which one is the later, etc.)
   * You can create a PR in GH and discuss it there, nothing else. There should 
not be crossed discussions in Jira and GH
   * I certainly miss other points, that's the gist

The new process is not clearly defined, here are 2 possible versions:

   * Jira is only used for history reason, no more issue creations allowed
   * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC 
agreement). It's then a replacement of Jira and we need to be quite careful
     doing so.

   * Jira continues to be used as is. With IMO some restrictions, like: if you 
have a patch you don't create a PR, it's one or the other way.
   * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC agreement) an discuss them there. PR or attached patch can be used to contribute.

As you see, for me the question is not  "GitHub or Jira"  but "GitHub or Jira or 
both" I have changed the title of the related wiki page accordingly:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Question%3A+GitHub+or+Jira+or+both

HTH

Jacques

Le 13/03/2020 à 17:41, Benjamin Jugl a écrit :
I have been following this discussion for a while.  However, I still wonder if 
this discussion is about which of the two options is the better one.
In my opinion, the discussion should rather be about whether the potential 
benefits of a new process justify the effort to change the old one. It
seems to me at least that this aspect is being neglected a bit.

Am 13.03.20 um 10:24 schrieb Michael Brohl:
Hi all,

I'd like to encourage everyone to visit the wiki page 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT,
 read
carefully, check, dicuss and ask questions to get to a good information base 
for an important decision to make.

Thanks everyone,

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 12.03.20 um 17:28 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
You are all invited to review, discuss in comments and possibly add pro and 
cons on this page

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT

It would else become unreadable here...

Hopefully we will get to a consensus...

Jacques



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