HI Jacques,

IMO, we can. But I would give it another few days (the customary minimum)
to see whether others care to differ.

Met vriendelijke groet,

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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:54 PM Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I believe we are now pragmatically using JIRA + Patch, or GH + PR.
>
> Remains the question about allowing the creation of issues in GH. It seems
> to me that nobody actually asked for that since Jira is enough for our
> needs.
>
> So I should not need more than what we use currently and can put
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Question%3A+GitHub+or+Jira+or+both
> in Attic now, right?
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 18/03/2020 à 18:22, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> > +1 James!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 18.03.20 um 17:13 schrieb James Yong:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I personally feel we should allow both JIRA and Github for issue
> management, and let contributers use their own judgement on which one to
> use. JIRA
> >> contains wealth of information and many open issues for review, while
> Github allows easier review of source codes.
> >> So do either JIRA + Patch, or GH + PR.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James
> >>
> >> On 2020/03/14 10:43:31, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi Benjamin, All,
> >>>
> >>> That's a good point indeed. And we 1st need to clearly define what are
> the old and the new processes. Here is a try:
> >>>
> >>> The "old process" (not so old, changed with Git replacing Svn, hence
> the discussion) is
> >>>
> >>>    * use Jira to create issues with possibly attached patches and
> discussion there. With all what Jira affords...
> >>>    * You can also link a GH PR from Jira. And have a patch, then it
> begins to be confusing (which one is the later, etc.)
> >>>    * You can create a PR in GH and discuss it there, nothing else.
> There should not be crossed discussions in Jira and GH
> >>>    * I certainly miss other points, that's the gist
> >>>
> >>> The new process is not clearly defined, here are 2 possible versions:
> >>>
> >>>    * Jira is only used for history reason, no more issue creations
> allowed
> >>>    * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC
> agreement). It's then a replacement of Jira and we need to be quite careful
> >>>      doing so.
> >>>
> >>>    * Jira continues to be used as is. With IMO some restrictions,
> like: if you have a patch you don't create a PR, it's one or the other way.
> >>>    * GH is used not only for PR but also to create issues (needs a PMC
> agreement) an discuss them there. PR or attached patch can be used to
> >>> contribute.
> >>>
> >>> As you see, for me the question is not  "GitHub or Jira"  but "GitHub
> or Jira or both" I have changed the title of the related wiki page
> accordingly:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Question%3A+GitHub+or+Jira+or+both
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> Le 13/03/2020 à 17:41, Benjamin Jugl a écrit :
> >>>> I have been following this discussion for a while.  However, I still
> wonder if this discussion is about which of the two options is the better
> one.
> >>>> In my opinion, the discussion should rather be about whether the
> potential benefits of a new process justify the effort to change the old
> one. It
> >>>> seems to me at least that this aspect is being neglected a bit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 13.03.20 um 10:24 schrieb Michael Brohl:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to encourage everyone to visit the wiki page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT,
> read
> >>>>> carefully, check, dicuss and ask questions to get to a good
> information base for an important decision to make.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael Brohl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 12.03.20 um 17:28 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> >>>>>> You are all invited to review, discuss in comments and possibly add
> pro and cons on this page
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/GITHUB+plus+GIT+VS+JIRA+plus+GIT
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would else become unreadable here...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hopefully we will get to a consensus...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
>

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