On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> there is a thread on the user ML about the demo being slow.
> I would think that would be a high priority for all those that commit and 
> make changes to ofbiz.
> after all what good is all this stuff if it can't be used.
> I brought down the demo trunk by accessing with seperate requests at one 
> time, as I stated on the user ml.
> 
> lets focus on real problems.

The real problem is: real problems according to who/what?

Don't make the mistake of thinking that problems on the demo server mean that 
real-world users with production instances are having the same problems. Also, 
consider that many of the features (like the WebTools -> Artifact Info stuff) 
are NOT meant to be run on production systems and doing so is guaranteed to use 
system resources in a wasteful way.

The main way that things get fixed is by a "real-world" user dedicating 
resources to fixing things that are important to their use of the system, and 
if you look at the commit logs you'll see those kinds of fixes (and/or 
improvements) coming in all the time. That's what drives the project.

Scott mentioned that the demo server is under-resourced, and that is true of 
hardware resources AND human resources. If not enough people care about it, 
there is no means of force or incentive from the project itself to get it done.

BTW BJ, why in your message did you limit the people who should do something 
about this to "all those that commit and make changes to ofbiz"? Or did you 
mean that more generally, like anyone who changes OFBiz, which would include 
you too?

If that's not what you meant, then would you consider yourself to be in the 
category of person that believes that a voluntary gift by someone obligates 
them to future involuntary gifts? And what will you do if they stop giving and 
your entitlements are gone?

-David

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