On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Graham Lauder <y...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>> <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> > Graham Lauder wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>> >>> <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>>>>> I'm thinking of starting to create an updated migration
>> >>>>>> guide for AOO. If you have any thoughts on this, or want to
>> >>>>>> help, let me know.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Target audience includes:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1) Individual Microsoft Office users, where such users
>> >>>>>> provide their own technical support.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2) IT departments who support users migrating from MS
>> >>>>>> Office to OpenOffice
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3) Groups considering moving to AOO and wanting some
>> >>>>>> guidance on migration strategy
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Rather than starting from scratch, I looked around to see
>> >>>>>> if there is anything close that could be updated.   I saw
>> >>>>>> that we have a few older versions of this kind of
>> >>>>>> document:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1) "Migration Guide: A guide to ease your migration to
>> >>>>>> OpenOffice.org from other office suites" (2004)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/oooauthors/MigrationGuide.pdf
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> > 2) OpenOffice.org 2.0 Migration Guide (2006)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> > 3) OpenOffice.org Migration Guide (2006)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/7/79/0600MG-MigrationGuide.pdf
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> > Does anyone know of anything more recent than the 2006 version?
>> >>>>>> Does anyone know where the source for the 2006 PDF is?  Or
>> >>>>>> was it generated from the wiki?
>> >>>>>>
>> >> I believe that all the documentation for Version 2 was done on the
>> >> wiki and was then made into PDF's using an add-on.
>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> OK.  If I wanted to start a new revision of the guide, without
>> >>>> wiping out or replacing the old version, is there any way to do
>> >>>> this?   For example, is it possible to make a copy of this page
>> >>>> and the subpages?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> > I don't see how to do this.  Perhaps it requires admin rights?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Rob
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>> Ack Sorry,  GMail defaults can be a pain... as I was trying to
>> >>> say
>> >>
>> >>> It shouldn't be too difficult,  I think that you can do this
>> >>> using the move tab, you can rename that and the subpages as well
>> >>> although that's not a copy per se.
>> >>
>> >>> I'll see what I can do, just may have to revert,  if it all turns
>> >>> to custard tarts
>> >>
>> >>> Cheers GL
>> >>
>> > Graham;
>> >
>> >>
>> > Using the Move command will rename the pages to the new namespace and
>> > set a redirect on the original to the new pages.
>> >
>> > One word of caution. Those pages are covered by the CCBY license. The
>> > only way I now to redo those pages under an alv2 license would be to
>> > start over from scratch and not use the prior pages at all. For me it
>> > makes much more sense to just update the pages with current
>> > information and keep the license as is. However I bring it up as some
>> > people have rather strong opinions about using other than the alv2
>> > license.
>> >
>>
>> I don't see a problem building on the existing content, under the
>> stated license.  We're not including these guides in a release.  The
>> reason for a copy was to preserve the existing material for users
>> while a new version is being prepared.  It could take a few weeks to
>> do the update and it could be messy day-to-day.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
>
>
> OK I've set up a new structure, not sure what the 502 error is, but edits
> seem to be taking in any case, even though the 502 still keeps popping up.
>
> The old version has been moved to
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide_2006
>
>
> And I've shifted an editable version to
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide/Calc_and_Excel>
>
> I've put a link to the old Guide on the bottom of the front page
>
> I noted that there is no link to the Migration guide on the Documentation
> front page,  Should I link to both versions on there or just the '06
> version.
>
> I just have a couple of subpages that didn't move for some reason to sort
>
> Recommend anyone wanting to contribute use the discussion page and put a
> watch on it so you can keep up with what's going on.
>

Excellent, thanks.  I'll see you on the discussion pages!

-Rob


> Cheers
> GL
>
>
>> > Regards
>> > Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >> Regards Keith
>> >>
>> >>>>>> I don't think it would be extremely difficult to update the
>> >>>>>> guide. The tasks would be mainly:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1) Update branding, logos, references to websites,
>> >>>>>> ownership, license, etc., of OpenOffice.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2) Update screenshots to current UI of AOO
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3) Update any technical content that has changed, e.g.,
>> >>>>>> platforms supported, file filters, etc.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 4) Write content for new migration-relevant features in
>> >>>>>> AOO.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 5) General technical and editorial review of the content.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Any other ideas?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -Rob
>> >>>>>>
>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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