Bernhard--
I appreciate the thoughtful comments...see below
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hello Kay, *,
Kay Schenk schrieb:
Hello *,
I made some rather minor tweaks to my revision at
http://website.openoffice.org/tryouts/Kay/projects/
Every revision looks better :-)
Thanks. :)
Some things to mention. I think it's rather important NOT to get
topics all garbled up together. With this in mind, I DID NOT put Kay
Ramme's lovely graphic about how components integrate on this page.
I second this decision.
And...although there is some merit in devling right in to development
type issues, this isn't really what this page is for, is it?
IMHO this page should serve different purposes:
Main purpose: Tell people interested in contribution (or already
contributing and searching for interaction between projects), where
they should go to find the right contact persons / web pages / mailing
lists.
Additional purpose: Show people interested in the product something
about the effort and work done by the community - and invite them to
contribute.
One more purpose: Short links to other projects where you don't
remember the right name.
At least the "Product" area could link (via title / icon) to an
optimized product web page with additional informations.
(Something like http://www.openoffice.org/product/ with better
structure and additional links to
Office Suite: Writer/Calc/Impress/Draw/Base/Math/Chart
SDK and URE: Easy informations on UNO etc., what's it / how to use
Extensions: Link to the Extensions page)
I think the Development area, linked via Contributing -> Programming
could probably sue some attention.
I would think of adding just two words "Development of" to the
"Product" and "Extensions" area - so coders could use the way they
like to.
OK--this makes sense. I shortened the lead-ins to just one word for
consistency. But I'm not a stickler for this. It makes no sense to be
concise if it doesn't make sense.
In theory I guess, when a user links to many of the Projects listed
here, I would think there should be links from THOSE areas to the
Development area, or development wiki or something. So, my feeling at
this point is we shouldn't overburden the Projects list itself.
That's right - just stating which projects are development projects
should be enough.
I threw in a few little graphic icons as you'll see.
This works quite good (you might add the icons to the list at the top
of the page as well).
OK. good point.
These could probably be modified with something more appropriate.
We should define a common set of icons - but in the moment this is
secondary (I hope, as I don't have the time to coordinate or work on
it...)
Let me know how you feel about this one.
Some more thoughts:
- Why do we need the project's leads on that page?
They are mentioned on the project's main page (at least I hope so) and
I'd like to save the space for more user orientated informations.
If necessary I'd rather like to have a list of all projects leads (if
this doesn't exist already), so someone searching for a project by the
name of it's lead will find it easily...
- The page lacks of the Products names Writer and Calc, the other
applications are mentioned only in the description.
What do you think of adding it directly to the Project links:
"Word Processing (Writer)", "Spreadsheet (Calc)", "Graphic
Applications (Impress, Draw and Chart)" with single link to the
subprojects and so on?
I think this is a VERY good idea! and I'm sorry I didn't think of it!
(I didn't find Math, but didn't search thoroughly)
hmmm....Ok...I'll dig around for this.
And with the application icons it would become even easier...
- In "Support" I'd look for mailing lists and forums if I didn't know
that they are part of the overall project /native lang projects.
Perhaps we could add a link to a page with such informations at the
end of that area.
- I'm not quite sure if QA is a support topic rather than a product
related one - I see is as (final) part of the developing process, even
if filing and fixing bugs is some kind of support...
(And André handed over his Lead role to Maho)
- "Languages" should state more clearly the difference between l10n /
l18n and native-lang (and it's interactions)
OK.
- "Extensions" should link to the extensions project as main part, not
only to external and UCB.
Oh my! I DID overlook that.
- As "Promotion" I see website, marketing (and art ;-)) only.
Installation and porting are product related projects, lingucomponent
stand in between product and languages. (As "Languages" is broader
than translation and promotion/support in native language, I'd put
lingucomponent there...)
OK--again, this was just really my guestimation/evaluation.
... and if we have such a lot of "Product" topics, perhaps we should
think of subcategories like "Office-Suite: Single applications" /
"Office-Suite: central and overall projects" / "Other products" or
something like that.
Someone else suggested this, and since I really didn't know how to
"subcategorize" items, I just left it along. I'll see what I can come up
with.
- We could describe how the most projects can be reached: by
http://<short description>.openoffice.org
Oh, yes, good idea, but this was, hopefully what the links are for.
Just some thoughts - might be wrong in several points...
Best regards
Bernhard
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