Indeed, the proposal A was based on http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/PortalMenu instead of http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/HomeMenu .
Then I suggest to call your proposal: E. Let me recap: - Proposal A : Tiny "Home menu". - Proposal B : XWiki right side menu - Proposal C : Wiki crowded menu - Proposal D : Add a menu on the top-left logo. - Proposal E : The complete "Home menu" proposed by Caty. -- About E: Some issues IMHO: - The amount of menus is not the same when you are in the home wiki and when you are in the subwiki. - Do we really need to have a direct access to the documents, the users and the applications of the home wiki when you are in the subwiki? Can't it be confusing? Thanks, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau 2013/9/12 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > You forgot one proposal which I like: > > > > == Proposal D == > > > > * Generalize the XWiki home (the logo at the top left) > > * When you click on the logo you get to the home of the current wiki > > * The proposal is about generalizing that feature to allow navigating > > either to the wiki home, to the main wiki or to the list of other wikis > > * It could be done by showing a menu arrow when the mouse hover over the > > logo and when the mouse moves over the arrow, show a menu with first > entry > > = "Main Wiki" (or "Home Wiki" if you prefer) and a second entry with > "Wiki > > Index" for example. > > > > What I like with this is that the user is already used to use the logo as > > a way to navigate to the home of wiki. > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi developers. > > > > > > Tuesday evening, after trying to fix all issues that integrate > Workspace > > in > > > XE made, I had a bit of time to work on this JIRA: > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9341 "Menu improvements when > > Workspaces > > > activated". > > > > > > The idea was to quickly implement the Caty's proposal for M2 (which was > > > scheduled for the day after). I made it and I sent a pull request. I > have > > > also sent a mail to Vincent to show him my work. > > > > > > == Proposal A == > > > There is some screenshots (Proposal A): > > > Logged as admin: > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png > > > Not logged as admin: > > > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu-non-admin.png > > > > > > You can get it from this commit: > > > > > > https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/8c1c1bac2cde30f9024525e50249382e3d2c4138 > > > (except that I have changed the wiki icon for this screenshot) > > > > > > > So I just want to link again the 'Home Menu' full proposal > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/HomeMenu > > In your screenshot is: > * Home > ** Administer Main Wiki > ** Wiki Directory > > What it was proposed: > * Home > ** Administration > ** Wikis Index > ** .... > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeMenuSubWiki.png > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeMenuMain.png > > "Administer Main Wiki" was proposed as: > - "Administration" > or > - "Administer Home" / "Administrate Home" > depending if you were located in Home or in the (sub)wiki. > > > > > We though this menu was confusing and not consistent with the current > > menus: > > > - Why do we have a link to the *main wiki* administration when we are > in > > a > > > (sub)wiki? Does it make sense? > > > > As an administrator I think it has sense to be able to administrate both > the current (sub)wiki you are visiting and also the home (mainwiki). > > > > > - Why do we have the main wiki (called Home) in the left of the current > > > wiki, space and page? The fact that there is actually a "main" and > > several > > > "sub" wikis is only due to the implementation. We could imagine, in the > > > future, a new implementation where there is no distinction between > "main" > > > and "sub", but where we have an independent "system" that allows the > > users > > > to create and manage their wikis. Then, it seems better to call the > menu > > > "System" or "XWiki". > > > > The "main" and "sub" is transformed in "home" and "wiki". The menu displays > the hierarchy: Home > Wiki > Space > Page and is also consistent with the > way our cascading works for our preferences (rights, etc.) > > > - When we don't have the admin right on the main wiki, we only have a > > > single item in this menu, meanwhile wiki, space and page has more > > content. > > > It does not look good. > > > > In the proposal there is > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeMenuSubWiki.png > Although this is not currently implemented, the idea is that we could also > list for example the "Users Index" a.k.a the "User Directory" (especially > since workspaces have only global users and the directory is located in the > main wiki). In the proposal I've used " *** Index" in order to have a > consistency between the index/directory applications naming. > > So the idea is that even if now there is only one entry in the submenu, we > could have more entries (if they are related to the Home (mainwiki)). > > > > > - If you are in the main wiki, you have "Administer main wiki" twice: > > once > > > in the Home menu, once in the Wiki menu. > > > - The left menu has too many items. > > > > If you are on the main wiki, the menu changes from > * Menu in the (sub)wiki > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeMenuSubWiki.png > in > * Menu in the Home (mainwiki) > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/HomeMenu/HomeMenuMain.png > > The left menu contains items related to 'spatial organization of content' > inside XWiki (wikis, spaces, pages) > > > > > > > > == Proposal B == > > > Vincent thought it was not good enough to be integrated in 5.2M2, so we > > > started to iterate until having this proposal: > > > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png(proposal > > > B). > > > > > > Why putting this menu to the right side? It's because, on the left > side, > > we > > > have Wiki/Space/Page, where you have actions that you can actually > > achieve > > > on these Wiki, Space and Page. Actions like "Administer", "Delete" or > > > "Rename". The XWiki menu does not provide actions like that, it just > > > provides some shortcuts to navigate thought the wikis. It's more a > > "System" > > > menu, like the Profile menu, or the Register action. That's why we put > it > > > there. Moreover, it make the left menu smaller, which is less > confusing. > > > > I don't like this proposal because is breaking the content organization > hierarchy: home > wiki > space > page. > You can consider our current menu to be composed of "Content || User". The > "Content" part allows you to create new content and to see your location in > the content hierarchy. The right menu is dedicated to User related actions. > > Also I don't like that it uses the name XWiki. Users want to customize > their instance and not even show it's running on XWiki, making it their > own. > > > > > > > > == Proposal C == > > > We had also this idea: > > > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/wiki-menu.png(proposalC) > > > But we didn't like it, because the "Wiki Directory" and the "Main Wiki" > > > link are not related to the current wiki, meanwhile actions like > > > "Administer", "Index" or "Delete" are. > > > > Crowded and serves as a double function. > > > > > > > > --- > > > After having created the proposal B, I asked Vincent: "What should I > do? > > Do > > > I commit it, without asking to the community?". He said yes, because he > > > wanted to have something to show to the community that can still be > > changed > > > for the RC1, and he applied the pull request. > > > > > > So, let me list again the 3 proposals we have: > > > > > > A - "Home" menu (Caty's proposal): > > > Current implementation: > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-home-menu.png > > > Mockup with the new skin: > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/PortalMenu/MenuPortal.png > > > > > > B - "XWiki" right menu: > > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/new-xwiki-menu.png > > > > > > C - Add actions to the "Wiki" menu: > > > http://xwiki.kephpage.net/proposals/workspaces-menus/wiki-menu.png > > > > > > I propose to start a thread where you can all give your opinion, > > regarding > > > one of these proposals, and you can also bring new ideas. We must have > a > > > consensus for the RC1! > > > > > > 0 for proposal A (the left menu is too heavy). > > > +0 for proposal B (not perfect IMHO). > > > -1 for proposal C. > > > > > > > So, my vote goes to Ver. A, but the way it was proposed: > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/HomeMenu > > (Wiki / (sub)wiki) > * Home > ** Administration > ** --- > ** Wikis Index/Directory > ** Documents Index > > (Home/mainwiki) > * Home > ** Watch Home > ** Administer Home > ** --- > ** Wikis Index > ** Documents Index > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > > Louis-Marie > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
