Hi Scott, I think I'm well known here to go half-cocked every so often. It might be my rep from time to time. Heck I was called the "gadfly" of the IAI list recently. I just am who I am without a lot of attempt at pretense. I think being real helps the list and there are other calmer voices that come and go to balance things out.
As for your response I think I did indeed take your message in the context of the total message and didn't see your information about education as separate from the rest. It is definitely great to know that people are interested in this stuff and doing interesting things. I still believe in the reclamation of the term "design" and the arrogance, as you suggest, is not arrogance, but deep belief. Of course, I own the term. So do you. So does anyone who feels identified with it. The people whom you reference who attribute more to design than I do are people who have already accepted the definition state and are adding to it, or more appropriately adding to its sphere. They are not substituting it and saying that design has no room for aesthetics or beauty or art. Here is my main point: Design is both utilitarian and artistic. If you remove either one of those elements you are leaving the world of design behind and doing something else (business or art). Design is also political and cultural. It is political in that it is humanistic. It is cultural in that each creation is a point of change to that culture. In so far as it is always something that the culture has to react to. So back to the "big problem" ... I still believe that "design" as a word, as a discipline, as a title is not something so cavalierly thrown away as Christina was suggesting it should be done. I don't see it as a ball & chain keeping us from moments of success and influence. There are always going to be backlashes against "pretty", and there will always be designers deserving of that backlash, but conversely there will always be designers who are above it, doing great things with design squarely in hand. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33964 ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help