Not to be a cheerleader for Trimble, but they do offer another nice handheld 
unit that is much more accurate than the GeoXT. The unit is the GeoXH 
(http://www.trimble.com/geoxh.shtml).  It offers real time sub-meter accuracy 
and 30-cm accuracy when post corrected. Also with the purchase of an 
additional Zephyr antenna, the accuracy can be increased to 20-cm (...but is 
an extra 10-cm really worth the price of an antenna at ~$2000?!). The unit 
costs ~$5000...and without the antenna, it doesn't require a backpack, which 
is really nice.

You might also consider the GeoBeacon, which sends realtime corrections to 
your GeoXT through a Bluetooth connection. I haven't used this product 
personally, but have heard that it is nice.

Cheers,

Mike




On Thursday 30 March 2006 09:35, Dave Thomson wrote:
> I would agree that the GeoXT is not a high caliber GPS unit.  I was
> dissuaded from using them by the very helpful techs at GeoPlane
> Services:
>
> http://www.geoplane.com/trimble/pathfinderproxrs.html
>
> I have no experience with Leica products, but I wouldn't imagine a
> handheld unit could rival the data quality of a backpack unit.  I have
> experience with the Trimble TSC1 Asset Surveyor/Pathfinder Pro XR
> combination (dGPS) but was looking for the ability to utilize
> orthorectified aerial photography in the field during data collection.
> I thought that the GeoXT might fit the bill; I was told, unfortunately,
> that the GeoXT's resolution was poor, and in particular the Z-axis was
> very poor.
>
> Instead, he recommended renting one of their Pathfinder Pro XRS backpack
> dGPS units, which they can pair with an Allegro CX field PC which takes
> the place of the Trimble data collector.  As you will see in the link
> below the Allegro can hold up to a gigabite of data and display color
> images very well.
>
> http://www.geoplane.com/junipersystems/allegrocx.html
>
> Of course not everyone can afford a Pathfinder Pro XR/S and an Allegro
> CX.  To be honest, I am not even sure how much they would run you
> currently.  I did see used Pathfinder Pro XR backpack units sell on eBay
> in the $5-10,000 range!  The big questions to ask yourself are: 1) do
> you need this level of precision in your data, and 2) do you need to own
> one of these setups?
>
> If the answers to the above are yes, and no, respectively, then consider
> renting the units from a business such as GeoPlane.  The last quote I
> had from them for that setup was $1175 a month.  The techs at GeoPlane
> can help you decide what you require without the pressure of a sales
> department.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> David Thomson
>
> PS - I noted that one person discussed the ability to hold a lock on
> satellites underneath a tree canopy with a GPS unit (handheld?).  This
> is not common.  In fact I was surprised that someone had been 'offered'
> data by their GPS unit in such a situation.  Perhaps this is because (I
> believe) most handheld units do not have good data quality assurance
> functions and will offer any position they 'acquire'.  User beware...
>
> High quality units will not even offer the user any data in such
> situations.  The Pathfinder Pro XR/TSC1 combination that I have used in
> the past was only able to acquire a 3D lock in the near absence of
> canopy; certainly the gap in the canopy had to be quite large (i.e.
> expose sufficient sky to adequately 'see' enough satellites).  In some
> situations where I needed to acquire whatever data I could, I would
> alter the settings to acquire the less accurate 2D data.  Later, while
> using the data, I was surprised at it's obvious innacuracies.
>
> The techs at GeoPlane did note that they have range poles can cabling
> that they offer with their backpack units, which allow the user to raise
> the antenna (what was it?) 10 feet (meters?) - sorry it's been awhile.
> They said that this can help one acquire a signal in and around tree
> canopies, but (of course) it is no guarantee.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malcolm McCallum
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:22 AM
> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
> Subject: Re: GPS units and accuracy data
>
> I have not used a Leica GS20, how does it compare to the GeoXT?
> also,=20
> =20
> Malcolm L. McCallum
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Biological Sciences
> Texas A&M University Texarkana
> 2600 Robison Rd.
> Texarkana, TX 75501
> O: 1-903-233-3134
> H: 1-903-791-3843
> Homepage: https://www.eagle.tamut.edu/faculty/mmccallum/index.html
> =20
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of =
> Marlow G. Pellatt
> Sent: Mon 3/27/2006 11:26 PM
> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
> Subject: Re: GPS units and accuracy data
>
>
>
> There are several GPS units with as good or better precision than the =
> GeoXT.
>  You will need to decide what Basic mapping grade handheld units include
> =
> the
> Leica GS20, Trimble Pathfinder series, and several other survey and =
> mapping
> level GPS units.  The Trimble GeoXT is a good handheld unit with decent
> accuracy  but is not the most accurate or precise GPS on the market.
> Geodetic and Survey grade GPS units are highly accurate but expensive.
> =
> I
> have used several Garmins, Trimbles, CMT, and Leicas.  I have been happy
> with with Leica GS20 and Trimble GeoXT for collecting spatial data for =
> most
> ecological applications.
>
> Take a look at how the software will interface with your GIS and weather
> =
> you
> need to look at maps and air photos etc of you site in the field.
>
> Here are some websites that may help you.
> http://www.digitalgrove.net/GPS.htm
> http://www.gmat.unsw.edu.au/snap/gps/gps_survey/chap4/chap4.htm
>
>
> Cheers,
> Marlow
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:41:46 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Forumites
> >
> > I wanted to find out more about GPS units, a topic many people have =
>
> asked
>
> > about on this listserv in the past.  What I am trying to figure out is
>
> =
> the
>
> > accuracy between an item like the Trimble Geo-Explorer XT compared to
> > something more economically available like a Garmin 12 or Magellan
> > product?    =20
> > Are people happy using simple GPS units like the Garmin 12 to collect
>
> =
> data
>
> > especially if you want to conduct geospatial analyses and if so how do
>
> =
> you
>
> > deal with spatial accuracy and post processing data if it can be done.
>
> =
>      =20
>
> > Also, what is the spatial accuracy compared to sub-meter GPS units.  I
> > would
> > assume that it couldn't but it might also be difficult to do.  I know
>
> =
> the
>
> > Trimble GPS unit and Pathfinder Office makes this easier and you have
> > better
> > accuracy and precision, you even get a root mean square error with you
> > data
> > so that could be discussed. I appreciate any input and help from any
> > one and
> > look forward to hear what has to be said.  You can reply to me and =
>
> then I
>
> > can summarize what was said to the listserv if need be.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Arvind
> >
> >
> > Master's Student
> > Department of Geography
> > Virginia Tech
> > http://www.geography.vt.edu/people/Grad%20Students/bhuta.htm
>
> Marlow G. Pellatt, Ph.D.
> Coastal Ecologist
> Parks Canada, Western Canada Service Centre
> 300 - 300 West Georgia Street
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> V6B 6B4 Canada, and
> School of Resource and Environmental Management
> Simon Fraser University
> Burnaby, British Columbia
> V5A 1S6 Canada
> Phone: (604) 666-2556
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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