Matt,

You are correct that one benefit of doing EDI over the Internet is
elimination of VAN costs.  However, not all trading partners can receive
data via the Internet.  Consequently you may have to send some data to the
VAN.  Along those lines Harbinger used to, I don't know if they still do,
but they used to offer a discount on VAN charges if used the Internet
instead of modems as your communications path.

At least in our case, expertise and resources are moving toward the TCP/IP
side of the house.  Eliminating modems reduces our costs by eliminating the
need to support modem based communications and taking advantage of the
expertise and resources available for the TCP/IP infrastructure.

Regards,
Eric Stengel
EDI / Electronic Commerce Systems Specialist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Sperr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: EDI over the internet


Correct me if I'm wrong or if it's just Friday and I'm not thinking clearly.
Brenda asked about a VAN/Service to do EDI over the internet, isn't that
contradictory?  The purpose of doing EDI over the internet is to get rid of
the VAN, at least the VAN costs.  The transmissions of EDI documents can be
done through FTP, with security, but if you're still going through a VAN
service it's not "eliminating the VAN".  (Don't worry VAN's you'll be around
for a long time.)  In the EDI world that I work in, Retailer-Manufacturer,
major retailers are still pushing mailboxes on VANs for their suppliers,
partly because they have invested millions of dollars into internal systems
to accept EDI formatted documents which they can receive over the internet
but until "they" move their internal software systems to support web
browsers they will continue to use VAN's.  Ultimatley, the "elimination of
the VAN" will incur only if the "major" companys move to a direct connect
feature themselves, ie Walmart.  Sorry for not answering your question
Brenda, I just needed to open my big mouth.

Matt
EDI Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
From: Brenda Newby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:22 AM
Subject: EDI over the internet


> I am looking for a VAN/Service to use EDI over the internet.  We have
> researched ICC.NET.  Does anyone use them?  Does anyone have another
> VAN/Service they use for EDI over the internet?
>
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