We have dealt with these people in the past with rhetoric, treaties,
commisions, peacekeepers, etc. I ask you in all earnst, what
do YOU propose?
Lee
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Stephen O'Shaughnessy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: 9/13/01 9:15:24 AM
>
>Why don't we deal with the people who are our
>enemies? "Love your enemies..." to quote a wise tome.
>
>I've heard all kinds of rhetoric about revenge, retaliation,
>and punishment. All kinds of talk about beefing up security
>and the resulting loss of civil freedoms. But nothing about
>dealing with the real, core, problem of the differences
>between two peoples.
>
>They are not wild, godless, savages. They are dedicated, loving
>intelligent human beings. They are as dedicated to their
>cause as we are to ours. Their attack did not come out of the
>blue, without provocation. We attacked first, in 1998, with
>a cruise missile attack on them. Sure, it goes 'round and
>'round, but we are not innocent here.
>
>The problem is not airport security or the lack of it. The
problem
>is not hamstrung intelligence organizations. The problem is
>a difference in two peoples and our refusal to accept them
>as brothers and sisters under one God.
>
>Nearly every American today, from school children to the elderly,
>can cite the details of this weeks tragedy. Everyone is talking
>about security and now starting to point fingers. Yet no one
>is talking about the perpetrators as people. No one is talking
>about their religion and no one is talking about our differences.
>
>And that is the problem. Reconciling those differences is the
solution.
>
>Steve O
>Columbia City, Indiana
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mats Jansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:36 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist
Attack
>>
>>
>> Increased pre-boarding security is not the answer. These
>> guys used knifes.
>> How many other ways can skilled killers use to take control
>> of people around
>> them? It seems to me some other alternatives warrant
>> consideration, based
>> on the assumption that one cannot prevent dangerous people
>> from boarding an
>> airplane:
>>
>> -Lock the pilots into the cockpit upon take-off, and have
>> absolutely no
>> communication, or no way to enter the cockpit. Landing
>> safely is job #1.
>>
>> -Security guards on every flight might deter to some extent.
>> Give them a
>> gas mask and the ability to set off tear gas (as long as it
>> can be kept out
>> of the cock pit), and maybe their chances are greater.
>>
>> I don't know, one can probably think of many better ways,
but
>> I think we
>> have to realize that increased pre-boarding security is
>> nothing more than a
>> charade to show people that "we're doing something about it".
>>
>> Just one man's opinion.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Moeller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist
Attack
>>
>>
>> Well said, Rachel! (as always)
>>
>> I completely agree. I also wish to point out that this thread
>> exemplifies
>> one of the goals of the terrorist: Americans questioning
>> their safety and
>> reacting.
>>
>> It's OK to be afraid, and it's OK to question, but our quality
of life
>> through Freedom must not be diminished AT ALL. Increased
>> security measures
>> probably should and will be instituted, but delays and
>> inconveniences need
>> not be part of them in the current state of technology. And,
>> above all, we
>> must realize that no amount of planning and securing will
make us
>> invincible.
>>
>> The key is in the response. First, we must continue our way
>> of life in
>> spite of our fear. To opt out of flying will show that the
act was
>> effective. What about next time when 10 city buses are hi-jacked
and
>> exploded? Or when 20 rifleman on different overpasses across
>> the country
>> start shooting up morning commuters? Will you give up the
>> bus, and the car?
>> And finally not leave your home at all? I apologize for the
graphic
>> examples, but in my years as a Team Leader in the US Army
Bomb Squad I
>> learned that the only effective way to deal with a terrorist,
is to
>> eliminate the terrorist. All else is just reaction.
>>
>> Which brings me to my second point about response: the
>> criminals must be
>> found and dealt with by whatever means available. Lobbing
>> cruise missiles
>> into Afghanistan is not going to cut it this time. We can
>> only truly win if
>> we demonstrate that attacks upon the U.S. and her allies will
>> result in
>> swift, deadly punishment, and that the act will have no
>> effect on our way of
>> life to begin with.
>>
>> Thanks for listening!
>>
>> Eric Moeller
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist
Attack
>>
>>
>> To be afraid is to let the barbarians win!
>> Yes, I will travel this week, the next, and whenever my
>> clients need me to
>> be there to help.
>> No, my thoughts on domestic travel have not changed....it
was, is, and
>> continues to be far safer than our daily automobile commute.
>>
>> Will the routine of the past for air travel change? Of
>> course! It should! We
>> will adjust accordingly - but never, never, never give up
our
>> freedom as
>> citizens of a democratic country and a free world!
>>
>> Rachel Foerster
>> Principal
>> Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
>> Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
>> 39432 North Avenue
>> Beach Park, IL 60099
>> Phone: 847-872-8070
>> Fax: 847-872-6860
>> http://www.rfa-edi.com <http://www.rfa-edi.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> My shock and disbelief is slowly turning to anger over this
most
>> tragic event and the actions to follow. Our lives in America
>> and possibly the world have changed forever.
>>
>> My EDI consulting involves constant travel around the U.S.
Before
>> yesterday, I never gave a thought to hijacking as these were
>> always targeted for non-domestic flights. Not anymore. For
>> those of us who travel on airplanes for business, I ask you
to
>> share your thoughts on this subject.
>>
>> Are you afraid?
>> Will you travel this week or next?
>> Has this event changed your thoughts on domestic travel?
>>
>> Lee LoFrisco
>>
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