I apologize in advance for that which I write below.

Stephen,

Your first sentence is a good one. The rest however is silly.

There is never a way to deal with core differences as long
as one group is willing to use the lives of other as pawns in
a statement of their political hatred. Northern Ireland should
have taught that. Those that want to bridge the differences
cannot as those that hate will not. The ones that you must
convert are those who willing turn an airliner into bomb
irrespective of those that they will kill.

Your diatribe is silly, your tone childish and your self-
righteous attitude is offensive to those of us, or at least to
me, who lost innocents in a calculated political
statement of terrorism.

Reconciling differences, your last sentence, also a
good one, however, presumes that you are dealing with
those who wish to reconcile differences; that you are
dealing with those wish to differentiate between the
innocent and the guilty. An airplane flying into a building
is not an expression in any way of the wish to reconcile
difference. Your excuse for their behavior is actually one
of the problems. It is a simplistic, as is your email. It also
is as naive as their behavior.

Silly, silly boy. Perhaps you should study history for a
while. Perhaps you should actually honestly look at
human behavior for a while.

LouB




Stephen O'Shaughnessy wrote:

> Why don't we deal with the people who are our
> enemies?  "Love your enemies..." to quote a wise tome.
>
> I've heard all kinds of rhetoric about revenge, retaliation,
> and punishment.  All kinds of talk about beefing up security
> and the resulting loss of civil freedoms.  But nothing about
> dealing with the real, core, problem of the differences
> between two peoples.
>
> They are not wild, godless, savages.  They are dedicated, loving
> intelligent human beings.  They are as dedicated to their
> cause as we are to ours.  Their attack did not come out of the
> blue, without provocation.  We attacked first, in 1998, with
> a cruise missile attack on them.  Sure, it goes 'round and
> 'round, but we are not innocent here.
>
> The problem is not airport security or the lack of it.  The problem
> is not hamstrung intelligence organizations.  The problem is
> a difference in two peoples and our refusal to accept them
> as brothers and sisters under one God.
>
> Nearly every American today, from school children to the elderly,
> can cite the details of this weeks tragedy.  Everyone is talking
> about security and now starting to point fingers.  Yet no one
> is talking about the perpetrators as people.  No one is talking
> about their religion and no one is talking about our differences.
>
> And that is the problem.  Reconciling those differences is the solution.
>
> Steve O
> Columbia City, Indiana
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mats Jansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:36 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist Attack
> >
> >
> > Increased pre-boarding security is not the answer.  These
> > guys used knifes.
> > How many other ways can skilled killers use to take control
> > of people around
> > them?  It seems to me some other alternatives warrant
> > consideration, based
> > on the assumption that one cannot prevent dangerous people
> > from boarding an
> > airplane:
> >
> > -Lock the pilots into the cockpit upon take-off, and have
> > absolutely no
> > communication, or no way to enter the cockpit.  Landing
> > safely is job #1.
> >
> > -Security guards on every flight might deter to some extent.
> > Give them a
> > gas mask and the ability to set off tear gas (as long as it
> > can be kept out
> > of the cock pit), and maybe their chances are greater.
> >
> > I don't know, one can probably think of many better ways, but
> > I think we
> > have to realize that increased pre-boarding security is
> > nothing more than a
> > charade to show people that "we're doing something about it".
> >
> > Just one man's opinion.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Moeller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist Attack
> >
> >
> > Well said, Rachel! (as always)
> >
> > I completely agree. I also wish to point out that this thread
> > exemplifies
> > one of the goals of the terrorist:  Americans questioning
> > their safety and
> > reacting.
> >
> > It's OK to be afraid, and it's OK to question, but our quality of life
> > through Freedom must not be diminished AT ALL.  Increased
> > security measures
> > probably should and will be instituted, but delays and
> > inconveniences need
> > not be part of them in the current state of technology.  And,
> > above all, we
> > must realize that no amount of planning and securing will make us
> > invincible.
> >
> > The key is in the response.  First, we must continue our way
> > of life in
> > spite of our fear.  To opt out of flying will show that the act was
> > effective.  What about next time when 10 city buses are hi-jacked and
> > exploded?  Or when 20 rifleman on different overpasses across
> > the country
> > start shooting up morning commuters?  Will you give up the
> > bus, and the car?
> > And finally not leave your home at all?  I apologize for the graphic
> > examples, but in my years as a Team Leader in the US Army Bomb Squad I
> > learned that the only effective way to deal with a terrorist, is to
> > eliminate the terrorist.  All else is just reaction.
> >
> > Which brings me to my second point about response: the
> > criminals must be
> > found and dealt with by whatever means available.  Lobbing
> > cruise missiles
> > into Afghanistan is not going to cut it this time.  We can
> > only truly win if
> > we demonstrate that attacks upon the U.S. and her allies will
> > result in
> > swift, deadly punishment, and that the act will have no
> > effect on our way of
> > life to begin with.
> >
> > Thanks for listening!
> >
> > Eric Moeller
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Aftermath of the Terrorist Attack
> >
> >
> > To be afraid is to let the barbarians win!
> > Yes, I will travel this week, the next, and whenever my
> > clients need me to
> > be there to help.
> > No, my thoughts on domestic travel have not changed....it was, is, and
> > continues to be far safer than our daily automobile commute.
> >
> > Will the routine of the past for air travel change? Of
> > course! It should! We
> > will adjust accordingly - but never, never, never give up our
> > freedom as
> > citizens of a democratic country and a free world!
> >
> > Rachel Foerster
> > Principal
> > Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
> > Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
> > 39432 North Avenue
> > Beach Park, IL 60099
> > Phone: 847-872-8070
> > Fax: 847-872-6860
> > http://www.rfa-edi.com <http://www.rfa-edi.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > My shock and disbelief is slowly turning to anger over this most
> > tragic event and the actions to follow.  Our lives in America
> > and possibly the world have changed forever.
> >
> > My EDI consulting involves constant travel around the U.S.  Before
> > yesterday, I never gave a thought to hijacking as these were
> > always targeted for non-domestic flights.  Not anymore.  For
> > those of us who travel on airplanes for business, I ask you to
> > share your thoughts on this subject.
> >
> > Are you afraid?
> > Will you travel this week or next?
> > Has this event changed your thoughts on domestic travel?
> >
> > Lee LoFrisco
> >
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