We will easy be able to pay for a full time developer if we all put our 5 
dollars in one pot... 

On 14 June 2020 11:53:13 CEST, Julian Wingert <julian.wing...@web.de> wrote:
>Moin! (north german hello)
>
>I would like to add some thoughts.
>
>1. Releases are a must have. Think about someone having a 10000 Dollar
>Maschine being brocken by a Bug. I for myself am very cautious about
>testing new versions, as my machine has 2x 2KW servos on y-axis, easy
>able to tear the machine apart...
>2. If there are spenders, bring them on. What about a patreon for lcnc?
>And payment is done in 3 tiles, one in advance, one @integration and
>one @release. We make a list of open things, define a price and publish
>them. I for myself would be OK with the one organizing getting paid for
>his work.
>3. Mark Shuttleworth may be interested in sponsorship along with
>Ubuntu?
>
>I think we have the usual problem, communication issues.
>It the spenders and the developers would have a platform.....
>
>Best regards
>Julian 
>
>On 11 June 2020 18:57:56 CEST, Curtis Dutton <curtd...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>I'm not familiar exactly with the release process as I'm a RIP guy on
>>all
>>of my machines and run master.
>>
>>One of the open source projects I work with (racket-lang) uses a
>>monthly
>>release schedule with minor releases and then a major release once per
>>year. They are academics and have funding so doing a monthly release
>>sounds
>>too hard. However would something along those lines be appropriate?
>>Perhaps
>>quartly or bi-annual releases?
>>
>>Is generating a release highly difficult? If so we should work on
>>making
>>that easier and ideally automatic.
>>
>>Master functionality vs 2.7 or 2.6 is a very large difference and no
>>matter
>>when the next release occurs, it is going to be painful for most users
>>to
>>upgrade. This next release will almost be more of a 3.0 than anything.
>>The
>>sooner that bandaid gets pulled off the better.
>>
>>Users need to be accustomed to frequent releases and frequent upgrades
>>if
>>not just to get them used to doing it.
>>
>>Now we definitely want RTAI in there, many users need it and linuxcnc
>>needs
>>as many users as it can get.
>>
>>Is it possible to get RTAI on a point release after the fact (unless
>>the
>>bug gets fixed sooner?) Why does the release need to be all or
>nothing?
>>Can
>>we do a special RTAI release later as soon as the bug gets fixed just
>>because it is a special case?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:58 AM Phill Carter
><phillcarte...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 11 Jun 2020, at 12:54 pm, Rod Webster <r...@vmn.com.au> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 12:33, Reinhard
>><reinha...@schwarzrot-design.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> If other users have similar experiences, then a lot of precious
>>> developer
>>> >> time
>>> >> has been wasted on releases, that don't have much importance.
>>> >> I believe, that developer time spent on pushing things ahead
>makes
>>more
>>> >>  sense,
>>> >> than spending it on releases.
>>> >
>>> > I think that sums it up nicely.
>>> > Look to the future I say!
>>>
>>>
>>> But I thought you were pushing for a release Rod. ;-)
>>>
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