Well, UL is a company, not the gov't. Agree the gov't has no business certifying products, but that is water under the bridge at this point. If UL, as a private company, feels that a significant fraction of the potential customer base could harm themselves using this product, then they have every right to refrain from certifying it. That shouldn't mean that it isn't available on the market, just that UL hasn't blessed it. Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261 > From: Derek Walton <lfresea...@aol.com> > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:04:57 -0600 > To: dougp01 <doug...@gmail.com> > Cc: Pete Perkins <peperkin...@cs.com>, <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer > > Hi Doug, > > I guess I find this nonsense. ANYTHING abused looks dangerous. > > More examples of Nanny state control. > > Cheers, > > Derek. > > On 11/14/2011 4:13 PM, dougp01 wrote: >> Never heard of this in Europe, for N.A. look at this video. >> >> http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/perspectives/consumer/productsaf >> ety/turkeys/ >> >> >> >> doug powell >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Pete Perkins >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:00 PM >> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> Subject: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer >> >> PSNet, >> >> Looking for input on requirements for CE marking of a commercial >> deep-fat fryer. >> >> What's the latest? >> >> :>) br, Pete >> >> Peter E Perkins, PE >> Principal Product Safety Engineer >> PO Box 23427 >> Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 >> >> 503/452-1201 fone/fax >> p.perk...@ieee.org >> >> >> - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >> emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your >> e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> >> >> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: >> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ >> Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to >> that URL. >> >> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ >> Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html >> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html >> >> For help, send mail to the list administrators: >> Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> >> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> >> >> For policy questions, send mail to: >> Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> >> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> >> - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >> emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your >> e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> >> >> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: >> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ >> Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to >> that URL. >> >> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ >> Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html >> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html >> >> For help, send mail to the list administrators: >> Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> >> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> >> >> For policy questions, send mail to: >> Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> >> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> >> > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > <emc-p...@ieee.org> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ > Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>