Exactly, thanks for the good explanation John.

JT

On 12/26/2015 5:18 PM, John Kasunich wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015, at 06:02 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote:
>> On 12/26/2015 11:53 PM, John Thornton wrote:
>>>>> Yes, that was my plan to run everything off of 120v except the VFD.
>>>> However, your drawing shows the VFD to be on the 120V side.
>>>>
>>>> I am a bit confused now which is on what and where.
>>> Ah the two 120v lines without a neutral is 240v, sorry if my drawing is
>>> confusing. That's why I labeled them L1 and L2 instead of L1 and N.
>> Are you using two phases (L1 + L2) of a three phase system or are you
>> actually using a one-phase system (L1 + N).
>>
>> There is quite a big difference between the two scenarios.
>>
>> The voltage between any two phases in a three phase system is sqrt(3)
>> times the voltage between neutral and any single phase.
>>
> I believe the answer is "neither".
>
> I think he's using the American standard 120/240V split single phase system.
> The distribution transformer has a 240V single phase secondary with a center
> tap.  The tap is grounded, and is the Neutral.  The two ends are L1 and L2.
>
> 120V volt loads (all "ordinary" residential loads such as lights and small
> appliances) are connected between either L1 or L2 and Neutral.  The
> panels are designed so that roughly half the total load is on each side.
>
> 240V loads (electric stoves, electric dryers, central air conditioners) are
> connected from L1 to L2.  Sometimes there is a neutral (for modest 120V
> loads), sometimes there isn't.  This drawing shows some of the plugs
> that are used:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_plug#/media/File:NEMA_simplified_pins.svg
>
> The 120/240V split single phase system is the norm for American residential
> power.  Three phase in a residence is extremely uncommon.
>
>
>
>
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