On Thursday 12 March 2020 15:15:14 Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
> > From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >
> > Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and
> > everything seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those
> > pins. I can only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can
> > come up with is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave
> > stepgen 0 unused. At least until I can solve the problem.
> >
> >Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga.
> > they are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their
> > obits.
>
> Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about
> +7V) What typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current
> limiting. 1V of HF noise without some current limit will damage and
> short the input protection diodes. This is easy to generate just by
> touching bare FPGA pins to frame ground in a system with motor drives
> (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all generate significant ground
> bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)
>
And at the time I was having a hell of a time with noise because I didn't 
single point the grounding, had noise up to 100+ MHz, and 40 volts 
either side of the DC level, which I did the single point bolt at the 
same time I put in the triplet of 7i42TA's.  Slow learner=me I guess.

> >I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
> >overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice
> > screw terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens
> > so I have 4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a
> > custom hal file but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you
> > diddle the hal file to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares,
> > use them.
> >
> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> > (<ghesk...@shentel.net>)
> >
> > escribiÿÿ:
> > > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > > >
> > > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > (<ldmarsag...@gmail.com>)
> > > >
> > > > escribiÿÿ
> > >
> > > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector
> > > off flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long
> > > enough to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make
> > > a new one that will reach.
> > >
> > > > > Hello again,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin
> > > > > changing with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on
> > > > > 0 since I have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if
> > > > > this is normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out
> > > > > of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I'm I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > > > (<andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>)
> > > > >
> > > > > escribiÿÿ:
> > > > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take
> > > > >> one is these iso
> > > > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB
> > > > >> so I don't have to go through the whole update thing every
> > > > >> time I want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andrew
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> > > > >> <robert.mur...@gmx.com>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put
> > > > >> > them together mes=
> > > > >> > sed up.
> > > > >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> > > > >> > linuxcnc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> They
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > c=
> > > > >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one
> > > > >> > has reported any=
> > > > >> >  major issues.
> > > > >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >>
> > > > >> appropriate
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > pa=
> > > > >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > >> > <ldmarsag...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>=20
> > > > >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has
> > > > >> > >> better latency
> > > > >>
> > > > >> than
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >> the K=3D
> > > > >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is
> > > > >> > >> next and XFCE
> > > > >>
> > > > >> is
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >> the l=3D
> > > > >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > > > >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest
> > > > >> > >> what machine or mother=3D
> > > > >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't
> > > > >> > > wan to use
> > > > >>
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The
> > > > >> > > microprocessor is
> > > > >>
> > > > >> an
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > AMD  A4 4000.
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > (<ldmarsaglia@gmail.c=
> > > > >> > om>)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> Why?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and
> > > > >> > >>> rtai. =20
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-wi=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > > > >> > <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>=20
> > > > >> > >>=20
> > > > >> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because
> > > > >> > >> the ones
> > > > >>
> > > > >> shared
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > o=
> > > > >> > n
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at
> > > > >> > >> least that's
> > > > >>
> > > > >> what
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > i=
> > > > >> > t
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me
> > > > >> > >> know if I
> > > > >>
> > > > >> missed
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >> something.
> > > > >> > >>=20
> > > > >> > >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy (<
> > > > >>
> > > > >> robert.mur...@gmx.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >)=
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> escribi=C3=B3:
> > > > >> > >>=20
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has
> > > > >> > >>> better latency
> > > > >>
> > > > >> than
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>> the K=3D
> > > > >> > >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is
> > > > >> > >>> next and
> > > > >>
> > > > >> XFCE is
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>> the l=3D
> > > > >> > >>> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > > > >> > >>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest
> > > > >> > >>> what machine
> > > > >>
> > > > >> or
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>> mother=3D
> > > > >> > >>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > > > >> > >>>=20
> > > > >> > >>> Composed with my Crayons=3D20
> > > > >> > >>>=20
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh
> > > > >> > >>>>> <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote: =3D20
> > > > >> > >>>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia <
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com=
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >>> w=3D
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> rote:
> > > > >> > >>>>> =3D20
> > > > >> > >>>>> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel
> > > > >> > >>>>> following the
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> instructio=3D
> > > > >> > >>> ns
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> here :
> > > > >> > >>>>>=20
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxc
> > > > >>nc -on- linux=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > -=3D
> > > > >> > <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxc
> > > > >>nc -on- linux=-=3D
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> > > > >> > >>> <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxc
> > > > >>nc -on- linu=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> > > > >> > <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxc
> > > > >>nc -on-
> > > > >> linu=x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>>> =3D20
> > > > >> > >>>> Why?
> > > > >> > >>>> =3D20
> > > > >> > >>>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and
> > > > >> > >>>> rtai. =3D20
> > > > >> > >>>>=20
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-wi=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > th=3D
> > > > >> > <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-wi=th=3D
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> > > > >> > >>> <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-w=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> > > > >> > <
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-
> > > > >>mi nt-i so-w=ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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