I just checked, the $199 version of Alibre is almost useless. It does not even have Bolian operations and no CAM. At $750 you get a 2.5 axis CAM system and prices go up higher for more features
FreeCAD does as much as the $750 Alibre. To do more it seems the best option is either $500 for Fusion360 or $60 for Solidworks. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:02 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote: > > I'm not paying $1000 year for AlibreCAM but then I don't have more than > the 4th axis package nor the lathe feature. > > The basic AlibreCAD comes with a simple CAM module. I doubt the low end > Alibre for under $200 has CAM since that comes from MecSoft. > > MecSoft also has CAM support for RhinoCAD and for their own Visual CAD/CAM > https://mecsoft.com/visualcadcam/ > Starting price is $595. I've used the VisualCAD. Not a lot different > from the AlibreCAM since the basic engine is the same. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Strauss [mailto:ken.stra...@gmail.com] > > Sent: September-17-20 6:56 PM > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe > > > > How do you generate gcode from Alibre? I found > > https://www.alibre.com/ecosystem-cam/ and AlibreCAM appears to be > $1000/year > > to over $21,000. I can afford $199 one time but an annual licence costing > > thousands is not in my budget! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:27 PM > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe > > > > > > There's always the less functional https://www.alibre.com/atom3d/ > > > If can export step and stl files. You pay for it and use it off line. > > Less than $200. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: September-17-20 5:04 PM > > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe > > > > > > > > Fusion360 just made changes that in my opinion kill the product for > > > > personal use. You can not save your work locally as a STEP file > after > > > > October 1, 2020. So download your stuff now. > > > > > > > > OnShape and Solidworks look like good options. > > > > > > > > Solidworks is used for thinks like rocket engine design at SpaceX and > > for > > > > building cars at GM. You are not going to outgrow it but may not > need > > it > > > > either. OnShape does not have native CAM. I assume people on the > > LCNC > > > > list want CAM. > > > > > > > > One opinion is to just pay for Fusion360. It is on sale now for > about > > $270 > > > > but will go back to $495/yr at some point. > > > > > > > > What is REALLY needed is a good open source CAM system that accepts > > .STEP > > > > files from any CAD system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:28 PM hubert <h...@hbahr.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/17/20 11:30 AM, dave engvall wrote: > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > You might try Synergy, does the whole ball of wax. Not too > > expensive. > > > > > > Takes time to learn. Parasolids based. 2D, 2.5D, 3D, wireframe, > > > > > > solids, turning and probably something i missed. Unusual > feature is > > > > > > extrusion screws. > > > > > > Runs on linux; will run on Windows but you lose a few features. > Has > > a > > > > > > 30 day free demo. > > > > > > https://www.webersys.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > I used to use Synergy but changed to Fusion 360. I talked to Bob > at > > > > > Weber Systems today and it is now down to just Him. While still > > > > > supports current customers he is encouraging those who need other > > > > > features to look elsewhere. He lost his Longtime cohort Larry a > > couple > > > > > or years ago but he is now retirement age. It was a long time UNIX > > > > > product but hasn't transitioned to 64 bit. He is running it under > > > > > Ubuntu 16.04 but had trouble with 18. I don't know if he would be > > > > > interested in passing the product on, but he hasn't updated since > > 2015. > > > > > > As far a photoshop; gimp is pretty good but maybe not so easy to > > learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > YMMV > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/16/20 12:15 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > > > >> No. I don't know of any CAM software for generating toolpaths > for > > > > > >> lathes that runs on Linux. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The best 3D CAD that runs on Linux is https://www.onshape.com/ > . > > But > > > > > >> unlike > > > > > >> Fusion360, Onshape does not have the ability to generate > toolpaths > > > > > >> unless > > > > > >> you get some 3rd party add-in software. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I have two computers here. An iMac for most things and a Linux > > based > > > > > >> 16-core Xeon PC with nVidia GPU for robotics software > development. > > > > > >> Onshape > > > > > >> on the Xeon is 10X faster than Fusion on my older iMac But > I've > > not > > > > > >> figured out a good way to translate the Onshape models to > g-code. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Gene suggests wring g-code by hand but that simply can't be done > > for > > > > > >> complex parts and even if one could do this there is no "proof" > > that > > > > > >> g-code I write is the same as what I designed in the CAD system. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> One solution is running a virtual machine on the Linux PC, > > installing > > > > > >> Windows 10 on that and then Fusion360. But this requires a > > rarely > > > > > >> powerful Linux PC. > > > > > >> (At least as a minimum, a 4-core i7 with 16GB RAM and SSD.) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I've been a Linux user (both professional and at home) for a > long > > > > > >> time and > > > > > >> before Linux existed, BSD UNIX and Solaris but then one day I > > wanted to > > > > > >> edit video and process images shot with an SLR. Adobe is the > only > > > > > >> game in > > > > > >> town for professional-level media editing unless you consider > > Apple's > > > > > >> Final > > > > > >> Cut Pro X. None of this runs on Linux. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM R C <cjv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> On 9/16/20 12:09 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > > > >>>> Fusion 360 can generate g-code for mills and lathes. It's > free > > > > > >>>> even for > > > > > >>>> commercial use until you make $50K using it. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Fusion is a little bit like Freecad but is more complete and > > better > > > > > >>>> supported as you would expect of a product from Autodesk. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> I have heard about that one. does it run on Linux too? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:39 PM R C <cjv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> Hello, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I have been using freecad for designing parts, and then > milling > > > > > >>>>> them on > > > > > >>>>> a sherline mill, getting the hang of that a little bit. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I have a lathe too, that works with CNC linux, but noticed > > heard, > > > > > >>>>> that > > > > > >>>>> you can't really make parts, or g-codes, with it for a > lathe. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> What wold be a good choice for designing, simple, parts for a > > lathe, > > > > > >>>>> that will create g-code for it? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> thanks, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Ron > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>>>> Emc-users mailing list > > > > > >>>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >>> Emc-users mailing list > > > > > >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chris Albertson > > > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
