I got burnt by Alibre some years back with their entry level version. I would never trust them again.
Cheers, Phill. > On 18 Sep 2020, at 2:01 pm, Chris Albertson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I just checked, the $199 version of Alibre is almost useless. It does not > even have Bolian operations and no CAM. At $750 you get a 2.5 axis CAM > system and prices go up higher for more features > > FreeCAD does as much as the $750 Alibre. > > To do more it seems the best option is either $500 for Fusion360 or $60 for > Solidworks. > > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:02 PM John Dammeyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> I'm not paying $1000 year for AlibreCAM but then I don't have more than >> the 4th axis package nor the lathe feature. >> >> The basic AlibreCAD comes with a simple CAM module. I doubt the low end >> Alibre for under $200 has CAM since that comes from MecSoft. >> >> MecSoft also has CAM support for RhinoCAD and for their own Visual CAD/CAM >> https://mecsoft.com/visualcadcam/ >> Starting price is $595. I've used the VisualCAD. Not a lot different >> from the AlibreCAM since the basic engine is the same. >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ken Strauss [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: September-17-20 6:56 PM >>> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe >>> >>> How do you generate gcode from Alibre? I found >>> https://www.alibre.com/ecosystem-cam/ and AlibreCAM appears to be >> $1000/year >>> to over $21,000. I can afford $199 one time but an annual licence costing >>> thousands is not in my budget! >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:27 PM >>>> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe >>>> >>>> There's always the less functional https://www.alibre.com/atom3d/ >>>> If can export step and stl files. You pay for it and use it off line. >>> Less than $200. >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: September-17-20 5:04 PM >>>>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe >>>>> >>>>> Fusion360 just made changes that in my opinion kill the product for >>>>> personal use. You can not save your work locally as a STEP file >> after >>>>> October 1, 2020. So download your stuff now. >>>>> >>>>> OnShape and Solidworks look like good options. >>>>> >>>>> Solidworks is used for thinks like rocket engine design at SpaceX and >>> for >>>>> building cars at GM. You are not going to outgrow it but may not >> need >>> it >>>>> either. OnShape does not have native CAM. I assume people on the >>> LCNC >>>>> list want CAM. >>>>> >>>>> One opinion is to just pay for Fusion360. It is on sale now for >> about >>> $270 >>>>> but will go back to $495/yr at some point. >>>>> >>>>> What is REALLY needed is a good open source CAM system that accepts >>> .STEP >>>>> files from any CAD system. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:28 PM hubert <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/17/20 11:30 AM, dave engvall wrote: >>>>>>> Chris, >>>>>>> You might try Synergy, does the whole ball of wax. Not too >>> expensive. >>>>>>> Takes time to learn. Parasolids based. 2D, 2.5D, 3D, wireframe, >>>>>>> solids, turning and probably something i missed. Unusual >> feature is >>>>>>> extrusion screws. >>>>>>> Runs on linux; will run on Windows but you lose a few features. >> Has >>> a >>>>>>> 30 day free demo. >>>>>>> https://www.webersys.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> I used to use Synergy but changed to Fusion 360. I talked to Bob >> at >>>>>> Weber Systems today and it is now down to just Him. While still >>>>>> supports current customers he is encouraging those who need other >>>>>> features to look elsewhere. He lost his Longtime cohort Larry a >>> couple >>>>>> or years ago but he is now retirement age. It was a long time UNIX >>>>>> product but hasn't transitioned to 64 bit. He is running it under >>>>>> Ubuntu 16.04 but had trouble with 18. I don't know if he would be >>>>>> interested in passing the product on, but he hasn't updated since >>> 2015. >>>>>>> As far a photoshop; gimp is pretty good but maybe not so easy to >>> learn. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> YMMV >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/16/20 12:15 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >>>>>>>> No. I don't know of any CAM software for generating toolpaths >> for >>>>>>>> lathes that runs on Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The best 3D CAD that runs on Linux is https://www.onshape.com/ >> . >>> But >>>>>>>> unlike >>>>>>>> Fusion360, Onshape does not have the ability to generate >> toolpaths >>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>> you get some 3rd party add-in software. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have two computers here. An iMac for most things and a Linux >>> based >>>>>>>> 16-core Xeon PC with nVidia GPU for robotics software >> development. >>>>>>>> Onshape >>>>>>>> on the Xeon is 10X faster than Fusion on my older iMac But >> I've >>> not >>>>>>>> figured out a good way to translate the Onshape models to >> g-code. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gene suggests wring g-code by hand but that simply can't be done >>> for >>>>>>>> complex parts and even if one could do this there is no "proof" >>> that >>>>>>>> g-code I write is the same as what I designed in the CAD system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One solution is running a virtual machine on the Linux PC, >>> installing >>>>>>>> Windows 10 on that and then Fusion360. But this requires a >>> rarely >>>>>>>> powerful Linux PC. >>>>>>>> (At least as a minimum, a 4-core i7 with 16GB RAM and SSD.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been a Linux user (both professional and at home) for a >> long >>>>>>>> time and >>>>>>>> before Linux existed, BSD UNIX and Solaris but then one day I >>> wanted to >>>>>>>> edit video and process images shot with an SLR. Adobe is the >> only >>>>>>>> game in >>>>>>>> town for professional-level media editing unless you consider >>> Apple's >>>>>>>> Final >>>>>>>> Cut Pro X. None of this runs on Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM R C <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/16/20 12:09 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fusion 360 can generate g-code for mills and lathes. It's >> free >>>>>>>>>> even for >>>>>>>>>> commercial use until you make $50K using it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fusion is a little bit like Freecad but is more complete and >>> better >>>>>>>>>> supported as you would expect of a product from Autodesk. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have heard about that one. does it run on Linux too? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:39 PM R C <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been using freecad for designing parts, and then >> milling >>>>>>>>>>> them on >>>>>>>>>>> a sherline mill, getting the hang of that a little bit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have a lathe too, that works with CNC linux, but noticed >>> heard, >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> you can't really make parts, or g-codes, with it for a >> lathe. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What wold be a good choice for designing, simple, parts for a >>> lathe, >>>>>>>>>>> that will create g-code for it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Chris Albertson >>>>> Redondo Beach, California >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
