On Thu, 2 May 2019 08:41:36 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: > I have ways of creating 3rd party repo's easily, but currently you can > install enlightenment from the openSUSE installer, and I'd like to keep > that at the latest version for each new version of leap, so i'd like e23 > or later in Leap 15.2 (about a year away), which will probably need a > reasonably new efl, but will likely only have meson 0.46.0 which is fine > for e but atm not for efl. > > There are alot of people using e from the installer, I keep bumping into > them at conferences etc, GNU Health have been using openSUSE + > enlightenment on all there raspberry pi's etc, so there is a significant > number of people using e in this way, and i'd like them to stay > reasonably up to date.
at worst other rpm's can be provided for such upgrades - it's a temporary situation until the next suse release anyway which should have upgraded by then... :) > On 01/05/2019 16:12, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > > > Open suse is an rpm based distro correct? > > > > If yes why not creat a copr repo that will contain the newer stuff? > > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 02:13 > > To: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman); Enlightenment developer list > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] EFL Autotools freeze proposal > > > > > > > > On 30/04/2019 21:39, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:30:20 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 30/04/2019 17:40, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:20:19 -0700 Ross Vandegrift <r...@kallisti.us> > >>>> said: > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 05:30:33AM +0000, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > >>>>>> I think everyone is missing the point. What you are saying is true but > >>>>>> that is why then they say if you want newer stuff to use a PPA for it > >>>>>> even though its not in the main repo's > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, anyone can make a PPA. But you're talking to the maintainers of > >>>>> distro packaging - we try to put packages into distros for real :) > >>>> > >>>> and i think this was covered - a stable distro release that will not > >>>> upgrade meson out of principle (that's the definition of stable) isn't > >>>> going to upgrade efl either for the same reasons... so i think the topic > >>>> is kind of moot. if someone wants to make pkgs for such distros they can > >>>> create upgraded meson packages too etc. if they want to go the "all done > >>>> by pkgs" path :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> This is kind of right, in an openSUSE context for a new service pack we > >>> probably won't update Meson because it effects alot but we can update > >>> efl / e because it doesn't affect as much, we could also add it if it > >>> didn't exist. Further if a new version of efl fixed a serious bug that > >>> was hard to backport we would also take the version update. > >> > >> tho meson doesn't affect THAT much... it's a build tool not a "runtime > >> tool". it isn't int he realms of libc, Xserver, bash etc. > >> > > > > Yeah there's a lot of stuff thats using meson to build now, and a meson > > update effects any updates we do for anything thats built with it due to > > needing full QA cycles to verify that the package was built correctly > > which is why enterprise distro's prefer not to update build tools mid cycle. > > > > > >>> In ubuntu's case from memory the service packs tend to only be a new > >>> installer containing all the updates so its probably less likely, but I > >>> don't remember how ubuntu works 100% so I could be wrong. > >> > >> in our case if a new efl needs a new meson, then... that's what it needs > >> and an efl upgrade is not likely to happen then from the core distro. > >> ppa's and equivalents can manage to fill that gap. this problem will go > >> away over time as meson matures etc. etc. so this is a short-term problem > >> as such. :) > >> > > > > Yep but in openSUSE's case that may mean keeping e22 through all the > > leap 15.X releases which I really don't want to do because I cant > > support it, so welcome back to the world of having bugs reported that > > are already fixed. > > > > -- > > > > Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > > > > Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > > SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > > GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > -- > > Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > > Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > > > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
