CLOUD OR HIDE THE TRUTH OF THINGS FROM YOU "SCIENTIFIC" MINDS????
On Monday, June 2, 2014 3:16:26 PM UTC-4, nominal9 wrote: > > I return to your post, Socratus (and Archytas) a bit late.... > > Here is my "problem".... and my "criticism".... As I read both of your > replies (Siocratus and Archytas) I get the "feeling", which is to say I > "infer" the "implication" from both of you that You both make the "leap" > and associate "life" with "energy". I ask both of you.... Do you have any > proven "factual" physical scientific knowledge that Life (as in human > intelligence and consciousness) is in and of itself.... ENERGY? > Or, is Human intelligence and consciousness... something else?... I don't > know. I don't have the answer.... but if Intelligence and consciousness is > "energy".... then it should be able to be captured ansd "stored" in > something like a "battery"... or a "hard drive"......I am not a > scientist... But I think that you two, who are (more scientist than I) are > basically just reasoning by "analogy or metaphor".... to "electricity" or > "computers".... etc. > > I'll go you both one better on Feynman 1987 quoted above..... > > If you ... "we"... "have no knowledge of what energy is".... I submit that > you.... "we".... know even less what "Life" ( intelligence and > self-consciousness ) is..... HAR > > I'm just saying.... do not jump to conclusions.... especially not on the > Energy = Life conclusion.... > > Essence... equals... Existence a "nominalist" like William of Ockham > would say.... The word "essence" is the "infinitive of the Latiin Verb > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/essence > rom French <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language> *essence > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/essence#French>*, from Latin > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language> *essentia > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/essentia#Latin>* (“the being or essence of > a thing”), from an artificial formation of *esse > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/esse>* (“to be”), to translate Ancient > Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_language> *οὐσία > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BF%E1%BD%90%CF%83%CE%AF%CE%B1#Ancient_Greek>* > > (ousía, “being”), from *ὤν > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%A4%CE%BD#Ancient_Greek>* (ṓn), > present participle of *εἰμί > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B5%E1%BC%B0%CE%BC%CE%AF#Ancient_Greek>* > (eimí, “I am, exist”). > > From there, it started taking on other "mreanings and uses > > http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=essence > > es·sence > ˈesəns/ > *noun* > noun: *essence* > the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially > something abstract, that determines its character. > "conflict is the essence of drama" > synonyms:quintessence > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+quintessence&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCMQ_SowAA>, > > soul > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+soul&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCQQ_SowAA>, > > spirit > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+spirit&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCUQ_SowAA>, > > nature > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+nature&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCYQ_SowAA> > ; More > core > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+core&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCgQ_SowAA>, > > heart > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+heart&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCkQ_SowAA>, > > crux > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+crux&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCoQ_SowAA>, > > nucleus > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+nucleus&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCsQ_SowAA>, > > substance > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+substance&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CCwQ_SowAA> > ; > principle > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+principle&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CC0Q_SowAA>, > > fundamental quality, sum and substance, warp and woof, reality > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+reality&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CC4Q_SowAA>, > > actuality > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+actuality&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CC8Q_SowAA> > ; > *informal*nitty-gritty > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+nitty-gritty&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDAQ_SowAA> > > "the very essence of economics" > > - Philosophy > a property or group of properties of something without which it would > not exist or be what it is. > plural noun: *essences* > - an extract or concentrate obtained from a particular plant or other > matter and used for flavoring or scent. > synonyms:extract > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+extract&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDEQ_SowAA>, > > concentrate > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+concentrate&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDIQ_SowAA>, > > distillate > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+distillate&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDMQ_SowAA>, > > elixir > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+elixir&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDQQ_SowAA>, > > decoction > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+decoction&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDUQ_SowAA>, > > juice > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+juice&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDYQ_SowAA>, > > tincture > > <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=6HZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&q=define+tincture&sa=X&ei=DsuMU6QR8uKwBLO8gOgJ&ved=0CDcQ_SowAA> > ; > > BUT DON"T LET THE "WRITERS OF FICTIONS > > > > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:10:47 PM UTC-4, socratus sadovnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:54:51 PM UTC+3, nominal9 wrote: >> I hope Socratus did not take offense at my derision of the term >> "Essence", . . . . >> . . . >> .....a rock (in and of itself) cannot "evolve" into a rabbit....can it? >> ================================================== >> >> Correct: "a rock (in and of itself) cannot "evolve" into a rabbit...." >> >> What is problem? >> >> Take man/ brain. >> >> Brain is not only matter (cells, nervous system . . . .) it is energy >> too. >> >> Without energy the brain/ man is dead. >> >> QED try to understand the interaction between matter and energy. >> >> Matter is "a rock, cells, atoms . . . . . . . . . " etc >> >> Energy is . . . . . .? >> >> *‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,* >> >> * we have no knowledge of what energy is.* >> >> * We do not have a picture that energy comes in little* >> >> * blobs of a definite amount. ‘ * >> >> * / Feynman. 1987 /* >> >> ==.. >> >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
