Firstly, i really like the mockups. i'd definitely like to use a system like
that.

On 4/15/07, Jesse Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, it's really cool, and there are some very good ideas. I like the
> tag system, though you are not showing what happens when clicking on
> one of those "smart folders".

It would be similar to what you see with the Shelf Tag Overlay,
except the contents would be, say, Person objects when you click on
the People Tag Overlay, etc. But yes, I do need to make
representations of those.

> I kinda like the way projects are shown, although I'm less convainced
> by the whole overlay system. I think it would be better to have no
> project management overlay,

Where would all the Projects live? They're not tagged, so it doesn't
make sense to have them in a tag list. I'm open to other suggestions
for how to do Project management, though.

> and just keep the shelf overlay (possibly
> though you could create more than one shelf). On the projects
> themselves, we could get rid of the document toolbar on the right.

Where do you want minimized active documents to go? Back to the
Project Overlay? (I would actually be fine with that -- we could
remove the distinction between closed and minimized documents).

> The right-corner project icon should be a smart folder as well, no ?

Well, in essence it is, but it's not "smart" in that you're doing no
searching or tagging. Clicking that icon simply shows you all the
Projects on your system.


Some other notes not in my last email:

This is based almost exactly on Brian's write-up here: http://
brian.muhumuza.googlepages.com/working_with_objects.html
I stole the Project Overlay system from him.

I am up for something completely different than what I made,
particularly if it's less mentally complex. The dual Tag/Project
overlay system can become very, very messy quickly (consider that you
might be viewing a Project, a Project Overlay, and a Tag Overlay all
at once).


You are right, the overlay thing can become complex to figure out.
We could get rid of project overlays so when we switch to a different
project, open documents show on the desktop and all other objects appear
minimized on the document bar (on the right).

A closed object could then be made darker to differenciate it from a
minimized object.

I had also considered unifying Tags and Projects (so that every
Project was just the result of tag1+tag2+...+tagN), but that doesn't
really work either (as per the email called 'Tags, Projects and
Objects' that I sent earlier). It may be that Tags and Projects are
just not compatible, and we have to have one or the other.

I'm open to whatever though, so throw some ideas my way. I'd rather
do hundreds of mockups and get us at a shared vision, than not do any
mockups and have everyone working blindly.


J.



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