EVDL Dave R.,

Comparing on a weight basis $/lb (on the theory that weigh goes with Pb
content which goes with quality of design and manufacture and looking at $/
Ah:

*#1    13lb* $3.46/lb @ $45 17.2 Ah  *$2.62/Ah*
http://www.atbatt.com/genesis-np18-12-12v-172ah-sealed-lead-acid-battery-with-nb-terminal.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12#specifications
*Is this the "Hawker Genesis" you were talking about?*

*#2    14lb* $3.57/lb @ $50 21.6Ah *$2.31/Ah*
this one weighs an additional pound for $5 more:
http://www.atbatt.com/power-sonic-psh-12180nb-fr-sealed-lead-acid-
battery.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12

*#3    14.1lb* $4.15/lb @ $58.5 22Ah *$2.63/Ah*
http://www.atbatt.com/amstron-12v-22ah-electric-vehicle-agm-battery-nb-terminal.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12#specifications

*#4    14.4lb* $4.38/lb @ $63 18Ah *$3.50/Ah*
http://www.atbatt.com/bb-bp18-12-12v-18ah-agm-battery-w-nb-terminal.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12#specifications

*#5    14.5lb* $4.96/lb @ $72 20Ah *$3.60/Ah*
http://www.atbatt.com/bb-battery-hr22-12-sla-battery.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12

*#6    15lb *$6.60/lb @ $100 20Ah* $5.00/Ah*
http://www.atbatt.com/bb-evp20-12-12v-20ah-agm-battery-w-nb-terminal.asp?cr_brand=BB&cr_product=BP17-12

Raises all sorts of questions...

Is #3 lying about the Ah?  Does the low weigh really me it is not as good
as say #5 which weighs a 180 grams more for an additional $14 each?

On a pure money for performance basis one of the lowest weigh, least
expensive #2 seems like a good deal.  Can 21.6Ah be believed?

Is there any merit at all to buying #6?  Its price point looks terrible,
but on the weight theory is is best.

This is a great way for me to learn here, if you all are willing to chime
in...

Mike


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM, EVDL Administrator <evp...@drmm.net> wrote:

> On 29 Apr 2014 at 12:06, Lee Hart wrote:
>
> > I have Enersys, Hawker, and Concorde AGMs that are now over 10 years old
> > and still delivering at least half of their original capacity. I also
> have
> > Gates, and Deka gels just as old that are still usable.
>
> I just recently retired the last of a batch of Hawker Genesis AGMs that
> dated from about 1997.  They were (well-) used when I got them.
>
> Of 24 equally old Deka Dominator gels, I'm still using 16 (and a couple
> others sit around).  Most have 60-90% of their rated capacity.
>
> One of the things I like about these batteries is how low their self
> discharge is.  They need only very infrequent charging when in storage.
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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