Just so you know you are getting over my head but this is the way I understand
it.
Inside a battery plain electrons can't travel around because it takes too much
energy to put a plain electron in solution. Electrons can only travel inside
the battery via charged chemicals, ions, which can dissolve off the electrodes.
The chemical reaction is what pushes the electrons inside toward the negative
end, because the electrodes at the two ends are made of different materials,
which have different chemical stability.
From: Peri Hartman <pe...@kotatko.com>
To: paul dove <dov...@bellsouth.net>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
<ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 3:34 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] "Zero self-discharge"
So, let me try to paraphrase this. Are you saying that
- the electrolyte can only conduct ions,
- with an open circuit (nothing connected to the terminals), no
electrons can move from one side to the other,
- therefore, with an open circuit, there can be no loss of charge over
time?
In theory, that sounds solid. However, what if there is some internal
leakage of electrons? What if the electrolyte is not a perfect
insulator? Is it possible for some electrons to travel (and ions in the
opposite direction) and some discharge to happen?
Peri
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] "Zero self-discharge"
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>Oh, yea, sorry I don't know why I was thinking magneticfield.
>At any rate the rest of what I said is accurate I believe.There is no
>electric field in a battery. A battery is a chemical reactor. The
>reaction is called red-ox reactions. In the battery is electrolyte
>which can conduct ions but not electrons. Electrons must move external
>to the battery.
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>The potential in the battery is a chemical potential or the chemical
>energy.
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