Folks, I hate to say it, but maybe it's time to tie a knot in this thread.

Plenty of good information has come to light, but I don't see any of the 
major players budging an inch.  

If you really think it's worth arguing more about this, by all means carry 
on -- but please do it via private (off-list) email.

Thanks,

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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