The cool thing about an efficient EV powertrain is regen can give you a lot
of this back when you go back down the hill!

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 8:29 AM Peter VanDerWal via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> Well, until you start going uphill then weight becomes significant again.
>
> FWIW, back in the day I noticed that my diesel F-250 was significantly
> better at coasting than my other vehicles.  Yeah it had crap aerodynamics,
> but 3 tons of inertia does make a difference
>
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>
> December 30, 2021 6:02 PM, "Bill Dube via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> > On 12/31/2021 4:17 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:
> >
> >> Well, that’s not how efficiency is measured but I think I know what you
> mean. The Wh per mile is
> >> mostly a function of weight. Aero starts to weigh in around 55mph. On
> conversions a good estimate
> >> is weight divided by 10. My car weighs 3100 lbs with me in it and I got
> around 300wh/m. Tesla beat
> >> this by making the battery a larger percentage of total weight by using
> aluminum. No one else comes
> >> close. I think the Bolt is close to the rule of thumb.
> >
> > At the wall is probably the best way to measure efficiency. It is
> > what the consumer cares about most. That is what I would care about, for
> > sure.
> >
> > Weight doesn't make nearly the difference in efficiency as does the
> > frontal area.
> >
> > Often, the weight of a car is sometimes reflected in the frontal
> > area, however, but there is not much correlation.
> >
> > Rolling resistance is roughly proportional to speed (and the
> > weight,) while aerodynamic drag is proportional to the frontal area and
> > the _cube_ of speed. That cube term adds up very quickly. Aero drag
> > starts to dominate at about 30 mph. Nothing else matters much over ~60
> mph.
> >
> > Bill D.
> >
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