That's such a defeatist attitude.   Memory leaks aren't inevitable and there 
are lots of tools to find them.    It's the result of shoddy, lazy programming, 
not some fact of nature.      Howevercomplicated you think the Tesla software 
is, the Linux OS is much bigger project and more complicated and luckily Linus 
has always had a low tolerance for stupid excuses.   


    On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 04:17:39 PM PDT, (-Phil-) via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:  
 
 Yes, you don't HAVE to reboot it.  Same thing for your PC or phone, but all
modern software on complex systems with a large OS will have some amount of
memory leaks, so it's always a good idea to do an occasional reboot to
clear things up.  I've seen Tesla uptimes without reboots of over 2 years,
but they are usually running like molasses by then.

Comparing the level of compute in a Zoe to the amount in a recent Tesla is
like comparing the Apollo Guidance computer to a modern PC.  The
infotainment (main screen) in a Tesla is, in fact essentially a PC running
Linux.  The autopilot computer adds a level of compute several orders of
magnitude over that.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 4:10 PM Rush via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Now, now, EV list lackey, calm down... just because it is recommended, it
> doesn't mean that the sky will fall on your head if you don't do it.
>
> My first M3 was bought in 2019 (I just traded it in for the refresh model
> because the FSD would transfer, a good deal if you ask me) and in those
> almost 5
> years I've done a reboot maybe 3 times....
>
> And I take issue with your blanket statement 'I can't imagine that the Zoe
> is
> any less computerized than a Tesla'. That, to me, just sounds like someone
> that's saying anything to put down Tesla's.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rush Dougherty
> www.TucsonEV.com
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> > Cc: EV List Lackey <evp...@drmm.net>
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla
> >
> > On 17 Apr 2024 at 10:27, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> >
> > > It's normal to need to do the first simple 5 second reboot on Teslas
> > > every few weeks.  Doesn't hurt anything and can make a sluggish UI
> > > fast again.
> >
> > That's considered NORMAL?  Seriously?
> >
> > Insanity.  You can't expect drivers to reboot their cars "ever;y few
> weeks."
> >  I can just imagine how my low-tech other half, Margaret, would react if
> she
> had
> > to do that.
> >
> > But she's never had any such problem.  We've owned our Renault Zoe EV
> for over
> > 4 years and have never had to reboot anything.  It just works.  And so
> does
> its
> > radio.
> >
> > I can't imagine that the Zoe is any less computerized than a Tesla.  I
> suspect
> that
> > the Zoe's firmware is just more thoroughly debugged.  Renault has a long
> history -
> > they're 136 years old - and a hard-earned reputation to protect.
> >
> > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
> >
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