On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 9:34 AM Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

*> A theory would give you a way to predict what kinds of beings are
> capable of feeling pain*
>

Finding a theory is not a problem, theories are a dime a dozen
consciousness theories doubly so. But how could you ever figure out if your
consciousness theory was correct?

 > we'd say "given theory X,
>

And if the given X  which we take as being true is "Hogwarts exist" then we
must logically conclude we could find Harry Potter at that magical school
of witchcraft and wizardry.

> *we know that if we create an AI with these characteristics,*
>

If you're talking about observable characteristics then yes, but then
you're just talking about behavior not consciousness.

*> a theory of consciousness that explains how qualia come to be within a
> system,*
>

Explains? Just what sort of theory would satisfy you and make you say the
problem of consciousness has been solved? If I said the chemical Rednosium
Oxide produced qualia would all your questions be answered or would you be
curious to know how this chemical managed to do that?


> > *you could make claims about their experience that go beyond observing
> behavior.*
>

Claims are even easier to come about then theories are, but true claims not
so much.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>.

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