--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > I honestly think that a lot of the bottom line > > > of why some people .... > > > > I'm out on this > > I'm going to spend my next-to-last post of this > week asking for a clarification on this, Michael > (thereby wasting it, when I could have been > talking about things of greater consequence). > > I really don't understand what you're trying to > express here. > > I understand that your first language is not > English, and so it's possible that you were trying > to express something different than what came > across. What *did* come across was a sense of you > being somehow *offended* by what I said, and drop- > ping out of the conversation because of it. > > This leaves me puzzled and confused. I don't see > how I could possibly have been clearer that what > I expressed in the post you're reacting to is > *my opinion*. It does happen to be my long-thought- > out-and-considered belief, but that is synonymous > *with* opinion in my book. > > I also went out of my way to say that not only was > it my opinion, I wasn't suggesting it to anyone > else as something they should hold as *their* > opinion, or subscribe to as one of their beliefs. > I wasn't "selling" a thing. > > Therefore, if you *were* offended, I really don't > understand why. I made it perfectly clear that I > perceive no Plan behind the universe. None. Nada. > Nichevo. Bupkus. That's how *I* see things, not > how I was suggesting that *you* see things. > > I also went out of my way to say that I DON'T KNOW. > There could very possibly *be* a Plan for all I > know. And I am as comfortable with that as I am > with there being no Plan at all. So again, if you > were offended somehow, I just don't understand why, > or for what reason. > > Please explain. > > What I said about one of the baseline reasons for > belief in God being a desire to believe that there > is some kind of Plan to creation is not new. It > has, in fact, been stated by any number of philos- > ophers, and by any number of *believers in God*. > It's basically a *staple* of such discussions. > What about this idea could *possibly* be considered > offensive? > > If you *were* trying to express a sense of being > somehow offended by what I said, I have to say that > *that* is the very reason that we who don't believe > in a God are often reluctant to discuss things with > those who do. They tend to get offended and indignant > over the mere expression of *ideas* that run counter > to their own. > > Again, please explain. Stalking off in a snit, if > that is what you intended your cryptic message to > convey, doesn't make a terribly strong case for > your position in all of this, IMO. Not that I am > trying to "argue" at all; I'm not...I'm merely > expressing what I tend to believe. If you thought > I was trying to sell you something or convince *you* > to believe it, I suggest you look into not only what > I really said, but also the accuracy of your own > perceptions. > A question of net etiquette has arisen. Any comments as to how to end contribution to a topic? t3rinity wrote "I'm out of here" and Barry wrote the above response. The atmosphere is charged.... At a party, one has many conversations, some short and some long (as was the above exchange), and one excuses oneself after a particularly long conversation when deciding to move elsewhere in the room, or to get a breath of fresh air. What might be a good way at 'Rick's Party' to excuse one's self, to move to another part of the room ?
How about, "Excuse, me, but I'd like to get a breath of fresh air" - would that work well ?
